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Palmetto Bay (IRE)

Sex
colt
Foaled
1995

See also: Palmetto Bay (GB) · Henry De Bromhead · 4 runs · 0 wins

Highest OR
70
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 5 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£1,250 GB
Last official rating
70 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
20 Oct 1998, Folkestone (13/14)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
433613

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
20 Oct 98Folkestone13/1440/1distMartin DwyerJamie Poulton49's HandicapClass 4Flat Turf1m1½fSoft9-370Grinkov (IRE)£8,2853691/12
16 Oct 97Catterick6/89/4F20Kevin DarleySir Michael StouteEuropean Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class DClass 4Flat Turf6fSoft9-0-Robin Goodfellow (GB)£3,035151/7
1 Oct 97Brighton3/813/24½Willie RyanSir Michael StouteEuropean Breeders Fund Sompting Maiden Stakes Class DClass 4Flat Turf7fFirm9-0-Forum (GB)£3,381390/6
23 Aug 97Redcar3/511/88Kevin DarleySir Michael StouteWhitby Conditions Stakes Class DClass 4Flat Turf7fFirm8-11-Rabah (GB)£3,438290/4
25 Jul 97Newmarket (July)4/87/18Kevin DarleySir Michael StouteSnowdens' Marquees Novice Stakes Class DClass 4Flat Turf6fGood8-12-Krispy Knight (GB)£4,143-0/7
  • 13/1420 Oct 98 · Folkestone40/1

    49's Handicap

    Class 41m1½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    20 Oct 98
    Course
    Folkestone
    Pos
    13/14
    SP
    40/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    49's Handicap
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m1½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    9-3
    OR
    70
    Winner / 2nd
    Grinkov (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £8,285
    Days
    369
    Future form
    1/12
  • 6/816 Oct 97 · Catterick9/4F

    European Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class D

    Class 46fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    16 Oct 97
    Course
    Catterick
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    9/4F
    Btn
    20
    Race
    European Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £3,035
    Days
    15
    Future form
    1/7
  • 3/81 Oct 97 · Brighton13/2

    European Breeders Fund Sompting Maiden Stakes Class D

    Class 47fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    1 Oct 97
    Course
    Brighton
    Pos
    3/8
    SP
    13/2
    Btn
    4½
    Race
    European Breeders Fund Sompting Maiden Stakes Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Forum (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,381
    Days
    39
    Future form
    0/6
  • 3/523 Aug 97 · Redcar11/8

    Whitby Conditions Stakes Class D

    Class 47fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    23 Aug 97
    Course
    Redcar
    Pos
    3/5
    SP
    11/8
    Btn
    8
    Race
    Whitby Conditions Stakes Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    8-11
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Rabah (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,438
    Days
    29
    Future form
    0/4
  • 4/825 Jul 97 · Newmarket (July)7/1

    Snowdens' Marquees Novice Stakes Class D

    Class 46fGood

    All fields
    Date
    25 Jul 97
    Course
    Newmarket (July)
    Pos
    4/8
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    8
    Race
    Snowdens' Marquees Novice Stakes Class D
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    6f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    8-12
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Krispy Knight (GB)
    Winner prize
    £4,143
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/7

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
20 Oct 98Folkestone49's Handicap13/14Marske Machine (GB)430 Oct 98NewmarketAvenue Apprentice Handicap Class E
16 Oct 97CatterickEuropean Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class D6/8Easter Ogil (IRE)223 Apr 98BeverleyFulford Maiden Stakes Class D
  • 13/1420 Oct 98 · Folkestone

    49's Handicap

    All fields
    Date
    20 Oct 98
    Course
    Folkestone
    Race
    49's Handicap
    This horse
    13/14
    Winner next time
    Marske Machine (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    30 Oct 98
    At
    Newmarket
    Race won
    Avenue Apprentice Handicap Class E
  • 6/816 Oct 97 · Catterick

    European Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class D

    All fields
    Date
    16 Oct 97
    Course
    Catterick
    Race
    European Breeders Fund Ripley Maiden Stakes (Div I) Class D
    This horse
    6/8
    Winner next time
    Easter Ogil (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    23 Apr 98
    Race won
    Fulford Maiden Stakes Class D

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Jamie PoultonSir Michael Stoute20 Oct 9820 Oct 9813/1470707010000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sir Michael Stoute-25 Jul 9716 Oct 974/8---40020.0%25.0%£1,250€0
Jamie Poulton
First run
20 Oct 98
Last run
20 Oct 98
First run for yard
13/14
OR first run
70
OR last run
70
Best OR
70
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sir Michael Stoute
First run
25 Jul 97
Last run
16 Oct 97
First run for yard
4/8
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

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Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat50020.0%20.0%£1,250€07025 Jul 9720 Oct 98
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
70
First run
25 Jul 97
Last run
20 Oct 98

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf50020.0%20.0%£1,250€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Firm20020.0%50.0%£977€0
Good10000.0%0.0%£273€0
Soft20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Firm
Going
Firm
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£977
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£273
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
5f to 6f20000.0%0.0%£273€0
7f to 1m20020.0%50.0%£977€0
9f to 11f10000.0%0.0%£0€0
5f to 6f
Distance
5f to 6f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£273
Prize IRE (€)
€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£977
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9f to 11f
Distance
9f to 11f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Brighton10010.0%100.0%£482€0
Catterick10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Folkestone10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Newmarket (July)10000.0%0.0%£273€0
Redcar10010.0%0.0%£495€0
Brighton
Course
Brighton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Catterick
Course
Catterick
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Folkestone
Course
Folkestone
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Newmarket (July)
Course
Newmarket (July)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£273
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Redcar
Course
Redcar
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£495
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 450020.0%20.0%£1,250€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2 to 5 runners10010.0%0.0%£495€0
6 to 8 runners30010.0%33.3%£755€0
13 to 16 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2 to 5 runners
Runners
2 to 5 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£495
Prize IRE (€)
€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£755
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
July10000.0%0.0%£273€0
August10010.0%0.0%£495€0
October30010.0%33.3%£482€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£273
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£495
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
33.3%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Kevin Darley30010.0%0.0%£768€0
Martin Dwyer10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Willie Ryan10010.0%100.0%£482€0
Kevin Darley
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£768
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Martin Dwyer
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Willie Ryan
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Sir Michael Stoute40020.0%25.0%£1,250€0
Jamie Poulton10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sir Michael Stoute
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Jamie Poulton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear50020.0%20.0%£1,250€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£273€0
15 to 30 days20010.0%0.0%£495€0
31 to 60 days10010.0%100.0%£482€0
Over a year10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£273
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£495
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchRoyal Academy (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireRoyal Academy (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNijinsky (CAN)
  2. Sire's damCrimson Saint (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchSurmise (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. DamSurmise (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireAlleged (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorsePalmetto Bay (IRE)
Sexcolt
Foaled1995
SireRoyal Academy (USA)
DamSurmise (USA)
DamsireAlleged (USA)
Sire's sireNijinsky (CAN)
Sire's damCrimson Saint (USA)
Dam's produce0 winners from 8 runners
Notable siblingPersian Rendezvous (IRE)

Female line

  1. Surmise (USA) · 0 winners from 8 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Royal Academy (USA)Surmise (USA)Alleged (USA)coltFlat 8.1f · NH 2m2½fFlat 9.6f · NH 2m3f
Royal Academy (USA)
Sex
colt
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 8.1f · NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.6f · NH 2m3f

Progeny of Royal Academy (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs4,3914301,1769.8%26.8%50
At 7f to 1m1,83418553810.1%29.3%20
On Good to firm or firmer going1,55316044210.3%28.5%20
At 7f to 1m on Good to firm or firmer going6647120110.7%30.3%20
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
4,391
Wins
430
Placed
1,176
Win %
9.8%
Place %
26.8%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
0
At 7f to 1m
Condition
At 7f to 1m
Runs
1,834
Wins
185
Placed
538
Win %
10.1%
Place %
29.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
On Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
1,553
Wins
160
Placed
442
Win %
10.3%
Place %
28.5%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 7f to 1m on Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
At 7f to 1m on Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
664
Wins
71
Placed
201
Win %
10.7%
Place %
30.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Royal Academy (USA) × Alleged mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat4125.0%024164.2%£11,163€0
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
4
Winners
1
Winners %
25.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
24
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
6
Win %
4.2%
Prize GB (£)
£11,163
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Moonline Dancer (FR)810£6,047€0
Whispering (IRE)400£3,516€0
Palmetto Bay (IRE)500£1,250€0
Enchanted Ocean (USA)700£350€0
Moonline Dancer (FR)
Runs
8
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£6,047
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Whispering (IRE)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,516
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Palmetto Bay (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£1,250
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Enchanted Ocean (USA)
Runs
7
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£350
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
Flat7070701
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
70
Highest OR
70
Lowest OR
70
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
20 Oct 98FolkestoneFlat7013/14
  • 13/1420 Oct 98 · Folkestone
    All fields
    Date
    20 Oct 98
    Course
    Folkestone
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    70
    Pos
    13/14

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
Flat70700700
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
70
OR last run
70
Change
0
Highest OR
70
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Surmise (USA)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 8 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Royal Academy (USA) out of Surmise (USA) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Persian Heights (GB)

By Superpower (GB)

By Sadler's Wells (USA)

By Entrepreneur (GB)

By Daylami (IRE)

By Night Shift (USA)

Female line

  1. 1Surmise (USA)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Palmetto Bay foaled?

Palmetto Bay (IRE) was foaled in 1995.

Who are the sire and dam of Palmetto Bay?

Palmetto Bay (IRE) is by Royal Academy (USA) out of Surmise (USA), a daughter of Alleged (USA).

Who trained Palmetto Bay?

Palmetto Bay (IRE) was trained by Jamie Poulton and owned by F Willson at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Sir Michael Stoute.

What is Palmetto Bay's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Palmetto Bay (IRE) ran 5 times without winning.

What was Palmetto Bay's official rating?

Palmetto Bay (IRE) was last officially rated 70 on the Flat (also the career high).

Is Palmetto Bay still racing?

Palmetto Bay (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 20 October 1998 at Folkestone in the 49's Handicap, finishing 13th of 14, and has not run there since.

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