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Horse profile
Optimistic (GB, 2022)
- TrainerDerek Shaw
- OwnerMrs Lyndsey Shaw
- FamilySayedat Alhadh
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2022
- Colour
- grey or roan
See also: Optimistic (GB) · Mark H Tompkins · 8 runs · 2 wins
- Highest OR
- 49
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 6 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £2,673 GB
- Official rating
- 47 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 24 Mar 2026, Wolverhampton (AW) (10/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Yet to win
Optimistic has no declared runs or entries in Britain or Ireland at the moment.
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 10/11 | 11/2 | 7 | Darragh Keenan | Derek Shaw | Midnite Building The Future Of Betting Classified Stakes (Div I) | Class 6 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-9 | 47 | v | Flicka's Girl (GB) | £3,140 | 22 | 0/9 |
| 2 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 2/10 | 13/2 | hd | Faye McManoman | Derek Shaw | Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I) | Class 6 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-9 | 49 | v | Lion Ring (IRE) | £3,140 | 6 | 1/9 |
| 24 Feb 26 | Southwell (AW) | 3/8 | 28/1 | 2½ | Faye McManoman | Derek Shaw | Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes | Class 6 | Flat AW | 5f | Standard | 9-9 | 49 | v | Fortunate Star (IRE) | £3,140 | 73 | 2/6 |
| 13 Dec 25 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 5/5 | 200/1 | 12 | Ben Ffrench Davis | Derek Shaw | Bet £10 Get £40 With BetMGM Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 7f | Standard | 9-2 | - | h | Squiffy (IRE) | £3,942 | 46 | 0/3 |
| 28 Oct 25 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 4/5 | 250/1 | 10¾ | Ben Ffrench Davis | Derek Shaw | Create Your Bet Builders At Midnite Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-2 | - | h | Coronado King (IRE) | £3,942 | 14 | 0/4 |
| 14 Oct 25 | Leicester | 9/9 | 250/1 | 26 | Jonny Peate | Derek Shaw | British EBF Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good | 9-7 | - | h | Song N Dance (GB) | £3,780 | - | 1/8 |
- 10/1124 Mar 26 · Wolverhampton (AW)11/2
Midnite Building The Future Of Betting Classified Stakes (Div I)
Class 66fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 24 Mar 26
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 10/11
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- 7
- Jockey
- Darragh Keenan
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- Midnite Building The Future Of Betting Classified Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- 47
- Headgear
- v
- Winner / 2nd
- Flicka's Girl (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,140
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 0/9
- 2/102 Mar 26 · Wolverhampton (AW)13/2
Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
Class 66fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 2 Mar 26
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 2/10
- SP
- 13/2
- Btn
- hd
- Jockey
- Faye McManoman
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- 49
- Headgear
- v
- Winner / 2nd
- Lion Ring (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,140
- Days
- 6
- Future form
- 1/9
- 3/824 Feb 26 · Southwell (AW)28/1
Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
Class 65fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 26
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Pos
- 3/8
- SP
- 28/1
- Btn
- 2½
- Jockey
- Faye McManoman
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- 49
- Headgear
- v
- Winner / 2nd
- Fortunate Star (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,140
- Days
- 73
- Future form
- 2/6
- 5/513 Dec 25 · Wolverhampton (AW)200/1
Bet £10 Get £40 With BetMGM Maiden Stakes
Class 57fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 13 Dec 25
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 5/5
- SP
- 200/1
- Btn
- 12
- Jockey
- Ben Ffrench Davis
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- Bet £10 Get £40 With BetMGM Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- h
- Winner / 2nd
- Squiffy (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,942
- Days
- 46
- Future form
- 0/3
- 4/528 Oct 25 · Wolverhampton (AW)250/1
Create Your Bet Builders At Midnite Maiden Stakes
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 28 Oct 25
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 4/5
- SP
- 250/1
- Btn
- 10¾
- Jockey
- Ben Ffrench Davis
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- Create Your Bet Builders At Midnite Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- h
- Winner / 2nd
- Coronado King (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,942
- Days
- 14
- Future form
- 0/4
British EBF Novice Stakes
Class 57fGood
All fields
- Date
- 14 Oct 25
- Course
- Leicester
- Pos
- 9/9
- SP
- 250/1
- Btn
- 26
- Jockey
- Jonny Peate
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Race
- British EBF Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-7
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- h
- Winner / 2nd
- Song N Dance (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,780
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I) | 2/10 | Fircombe Hall (GB) | 5 | 10 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I) |
| 24 Feb 26 | Southwell (AW) | Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes | 3/8 | Fortunate Star (IRE) | 1 | 6 Mar 26 | Newcastle (AW) | Midnite A Next Generation Betting App Classified Stakes |
| 24 Feb 26 | Southwell (AW) | Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes | 3/8 | Lion Ring (IRE) | 5 | 2 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I) |
| 14 Oct 25 | Leicester | British EBF Novice Stakes | 9/9 | Song N Dance (GB) | 1 | 1 Nov 25 | Newcastle (AW) | Bet £10 Get £40 With BetMGM Handicap |
- 2/102 Mar 26 · Wolverhampton (AW)
Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 2 Mar 26
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 2/10
- Winner next time
- Fircombe Hall (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 10 Mar 26
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
- 3/824 Feb 26 · Southwell (AW)
Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 26
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Race
- Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
- This horse
- 3/8
- Winner next time
- Fortunate Star (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 6 Mar 26
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Midnite A Next Generation Betting App Classified Stakes
- 3/824 Feb 26 · Southwell (AW)
Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 26
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Race
- Midnite Aint Your Grandads Bookie Classified Stakes
- This horse
- 3/8
- Winner next time
- Lion Ring (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 2 Mar 26
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Midnite: Built For 2026 Not 2006 Classified Stakes (Div I)
- 9/914 Oct 25 · Leicester
British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Oct 25
- Course
- Leicester
- Race
- British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 9/9
- Winner next time
- Song N Dance (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 1 Nov 25
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Bet £10 Get £40 With BetMGM Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Derek Shaw | 14 Oct 25 | 24 Mar 26 | 9/9 | 49 | 47 | 49 | 6 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 |
Derek Shaw
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- First run
- 14 Oct 25
- Last run
- 24 Mar 26
- First run for yard
- 9/9
- OR first run
- 49
- OR last run
- 47
- Best OR
- 49
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 6 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 | 49 | 14 Oct 25 | 24 Mar 26 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 49
- First run
- 14 Oct 25
- Last run
- 24 Mar 26
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 5 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 4 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,936 | €0 | ||
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Southwell (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £736 | €0 |
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,936
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Leicester
- Course
- Leicester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Southwell (AW)
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £736
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,210 | €0 |
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,210
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,474 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £736 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,474
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £736
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| February | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £736 | €0 | ||
| March | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,474 | €0 | ||
| October | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £736
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,474
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ben Ffrench Davis | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| Faye McManoman | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,210 | €0 | ||
| Darragh Keenan | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Jonny Peate | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Ben Ffrench Davis
- Jockey
- Ben Ffrench Davis
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Faye McManoman
- Jockey
- Faye McManoman
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,210
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Darragh Keenan
- Jockey
- Darragh Keenan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Jonny Peate
- Jockey
- Jonny Peate
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Derek Shaw | 6 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,673 | €0 |
Derek Shaw
- Trainer
- Derek Shaw
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| h | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| v | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £2,210 | €0 |
h
- Headgear
- h
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
v
- Headgear
- v
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,210
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 1 to 7 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,474 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £463 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 61 to 120 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £736 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
1 to 7 days
- Days since last run
- 1 to 7 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,474
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £463
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
61 to 120 days
- Days since last run
- 61 to 120 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £736
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time visor | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £736 | €0 | ||
| First time hood | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 4 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £1,936 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time visor
- Headgear
- First time visor
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £736
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time hood
- Headgear
- First time hood
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,936
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchHavana Grey (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireHavana Grey (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireHavana Gold (IRE)
- Sire's damBlanc De Chine (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchNabat Sultan (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireInvincible Spirit (IRE)
- Dam's damReyaada (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireDaylami (IRE)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Nabat Sultan (GB) · by Invincible Spirit (IRE) · 0 winners from 4 runners
- Reyaada (GB) · by Daylami (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners
- Walayef (USA) · by Danzig (USA) · 8 winners from 12 runners · Group 3 winner (2 black-type wins)
- Sayedat Alhadh (USA) · 6 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Havana Grey (GB) | Nabat Sultan (GB) | Invincible Spirit (IRE) | Mrs Lyndsey Shaw | 7 Mar 22 | grey or roan | gelding | Flat 6.1f | Flat 7.5f · NH 2m2½f |
Havana Grey (GB)
- Sire
- Havana Grey (GB)
- Damsire
- Invincible Spirit (IRE)
- Breeder
- Mrs Lyndsey Shaw
- Foaled
- 7 Mar 22
- Colour
- grey or roan
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.5f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Havana Grey (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 4,342 | 588 | 1,477 | 6 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,991 | 444 | 1,043 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 1,516 | 199 | 539 | 5 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 956 | 141 | 353 | 4 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 4,342
- Wins
- 588
- Placed
- 1,477
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,991
- Wins
- 444
- Placed
- 1,043
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,516
- Wins
- 199
- Placed
- 539
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 956
- Wins
- 141
- Placed
- 353
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Havana Grey (GB) × Invincible Spirit (IRE) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 3 | 9 | £53,969 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 4
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 33
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd/3rd
- 9
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £53,969
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alasrae (GB) | 16 | 3 | 0 | £48,742 | €0 |
| Havana White (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Optimistic (GB) | 6 | 0 | 0 | £2,673 | €0 |
| Havana Halo (GB) | 10 | 0 | 0 | £2,554 | €0 |
Alasrae (GB)
- Horse
- Alasrae (GB)
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £48,742
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Havana White (GB)
- Horse
- Havana White (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Optimistic (GB)
- Horse
- Optimistic (GB)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,673
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Havana Halo (GB)
- Horse
- Havana Halo (GB)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,554
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 47 | 49 | 47 | 3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 47
- Highest OR
- 49
- Lowest OR
- 47
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 24 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Flat | 47 | -2 | 10/11 |
| 2 Mar 26 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Flat | 49 | 0 | 2/10 |
| 24 Feb 26 | Southwell (AW) | Flat | 49 | - | 3/8 |
- 10/1124 Mar 26 · Wolverhampton (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 24 Mar 26
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 47
- Change
- -2
- Pos
- 10/11
- 2/102 Mar 26 · Wolverhampton (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 2 Mar 26
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 49
- Change
- 0
- Pos
- 2/10
- 3/824 Feb 26 · Southwell (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 24 Feb 26
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 49
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 3/8
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 47 | 47 | 0 | 49 | -2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 47
- OR last run
- 47
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 49
- v highest
- -2
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Havana Grey (GB) out of Nabat Sultan (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Poet's Voice (GB)
- Purely Prosecco (GB)0W · 7R
By Farhh (GB)
- Farhhsical (GB)0W · 7R
By Hellvelyn (GB)
- Mr Funky Monkey (GB)0W · 12R
Female line
- 1Nabat Sultan (GB) · by Invincible Spirit (IRE)
- 2Reyaada (GB) · by Daylami (IRE)
- 3Walayef (USA) · by Danzig (USA)
- 4Sayedat Alhadh (USA)
Notable relatives
Great-great-uncle (out of 4th dam)
- Haatef (USA)4W · 8R · 2 black-type
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Mohaayed (GB)6W · 37R · 2 black-type
3rd dam
- Walayef (USA)3W · 5R · 2 black-type
First cousin twice removed
- Annaf (IRE)8W · 49R · 3 black-type
- Mushir (GB)3W · 7R · 1 black-type
Great-great-aunt (out of 4th dam)
- Ulfah (USA)4W · 12R · 2 black-type
- Shimah (USA)2W · 4R · 1 black-type
Second cousin once removed
- Ellusive Butterfly (IRE)3W · 8R · 2 black-type
In brief
How old is Optimistic?
Optimistic (GB) is a 4-year-old grey or roan gelding, foaled on 7 March 2022.
Who are the sire and dam of Optimistic?
Optimistic (GB) is by Havana Grey (GB) out of Nabat Sultan (GB), a daughter of Invincible Spirit (IRE), and was bred by Mrs Lyndsey Shaw.
Who trains Optimistic?
Optimistic (GB) is trained by Derek Shaw and owned by Mrs Lyndsey Shaw, and has run for no other trainer in Britain or Ireland.
What is Optimistic's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Optimistic (GB) has run 6 times and is yet to win.
What is Optimistic's official rating?
Optimistic (GB) is officially rated 47 on the Flat (career high 49).
When did Optimistic last run?
Optimistic (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 24 March 2026 at Wolverhampton (AW) in the Midnite Building The Future Of Betting Classified Stakes, finishing 10th of 11.
Is Optimistic related to any top horses?
Optimistic (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Haatef (USA) (great-great-uncle, Group 2 winner), Annaf (IRE) (first cousin twice removed, Group 3 winner) and Walayef (USA) (3rd dam, Group 3 winner), from the Sayedat Alhadh (USA) family.
What is Optimistic's record at Wolverhampton (AW)?
Optimistic (GB) has run most often at Wolverhampton (AW), with no wins from 4 runs there.
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