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Horse profile

Optimist (IRE)

Galileo (IRE) × Grecian Glory (IRE) (Zafonic (USA))
Sex
colt
Foaled
2009

See also: Optimist (GER) · Brian Ellison · 8 runs · 0 wins

Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
€975 IRE
Last run (GB & IRE)
24 Sep 2011, Gowran Park (IRE) (4/15)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
44

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
24 Sep 11Gowran Park (IRE)4/155/2F4Wayne LordanDavid WachmanIrish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)Non-handicap (unclassified)Flat Turf1mGood9-3Akeed Wafi (IRE)€7,200142/14
10 Sep 11Curragh (IRE)4/1933/18½Michael HusseyDavid WachmanLoughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) MaidenNon-handicap (unclassified)Flat Turf1mYielding to Soft9-0Imperial Monarch (IRE)€10,350-2/16
  • 4/1524 Sep 11 · Gowran Park (IRE)5/2F

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)1mGood

    All fields
    Date
    24 Sep 11
    Pos
    4/15
    SP
    5/2F
    Btn
    4
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-3
    Winner / 2nd
    Akeed Wafi (IRE)
    Winner prize
    €7,200
    Days
    14
    Future form
    2/14
  • 4/1910 Sep 11 · Curragh (IRE)33/1

    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden

    Non-handicap (unclassified)1mYielding to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    10 Sep 11
    Course
    Curragh (IRE)
    Pos
    4/19
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    8½
    Race
    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m
    Going
    Yielding to Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    Winner prize
    €10,350
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/16

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
24 Sep 11Gowran Park (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)4/15Call To Battle (IRE)69 Oct 11Curragh (IRE)Manguard Plus European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden
24 Sep 11Gowran Park (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)4/15Beat The Ballot (IRE)109 Dec 11Dundalk (AW) (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
10 Sep 11Curragh (IRE)Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden4/19Imperial Monarch (IRE)128 Apr 12Sandownbet365 Classic Trial
10 Sep 11Curragh (IRE)Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden4/19Amira's Prince (IRE)525 Mar 12Curragh (IRE)Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 3yo Maiden
  • 4/1524 Sep 11 · Gowran Park (IRE)

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)

    All fields
    Date
    24 Sep 11
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)
    This horse
    4/15
    Winner next time
    Call To Battle (IRE)
    Their pos
    6
    Won on
    9 Oct 11
    At
    Curragh (IRE)
    Race won
    Manguard Plus European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden
  • 4/1524 Sep 11 · Gowran Park (IRE)

    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)

    All fields
    Date
    24 Sep 11
    Race
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden (Div I)
    This horse
    4/15
    Winner next time
    Beat The Ballot (IRE)
    Their pos
    10
    Won on
    9 Dec 11
    At
    Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
    Race won
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
  • 4/1910 Sep 11 · Curragh (IRE)

    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden

    All fields
    Date
    10 Sep 11
    Course
    Curragh (IRE)
    Race
    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
    This horse
    4/19
    Winner next time
    Imperial Monarch (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    28 Apr 12
    Race won
    bet365 Classic Trial
  • 4/1910 Sep 11 · Curragh (IRE)

    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden

    All fields
    Date
    10 Sep 11
    Course
    Curragh (IRE)
    Race
    Loughwood Fencing European Breeders Fund 2yo (C & G) Maiden
    This horse
    4/19
    Winner next time
    Amira's Prince (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    25 Mar 12
    At
    Curragh (IRE)
    Race won
    Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 3yo Maiden

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
David Wachman10 Sep 1124 Sep 114/1920000.0%0.0%£0€975
David Wachman
First run
10 Sep 11
Last run
24 Sep 11
First run for yard
4/19
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€975

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
Flat20000.0%0.0%£0€97510 Sep 1124 Sep 11
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€975
First run
10 Sep 11
Last run
24 Sep 11

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchGalileo (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireGalileo (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
  2. Sire's damUrban Sea (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchGrecian Glory (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamGrecian Glory (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireZafonic (USA)
  2. Dam's damGrecian Urn (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Galileo (IRE)
Grecian Glory (IRE)
Sadler's Wells (USA)
Urban Sea (USA)
Zafonic (USA)
Grecian Urn (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseOptimist (IRE)
Sexcolt
Foaled2009
SireGalileo (IRE)
DamGrecian Glory (IRE)
DamsireZafonic (USA)
Sire's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
Sire's damUrban Sea (USA)
2nd damGrecian Urn (GB)
Dam's produce4 winners from 8 runners
Notable siblingAmber Grey (IRE)

Female line

  1. Grecian Glory (IRE) · by Zafonic (USA) · 4 winners from 8 runners
  2. Grecian Urn (GB) · 6 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Galileo (IRE)Grecian Glory (IRE)Zafonic (USA)coltFlat 10.6f · NH 2m2½fFlat 8.5f · NH 2m1½f
Galileo (IRE)
Sex
colt
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 10.6f · NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 8.5f · NH 2m1½f

Progeny of Galileo (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs13,4842,1064,85915.6%36.0%20
At 7f to 1m3,4035971,32917.5%39.1%20
On Good to soft or yielding going1,97232675216.5%38.1%10
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going55810022317.9%40.0%10
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
13,484
Wins
2,106
Placed
4,859
Win %
15.6%
Place %
36.0%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 7f to 1m
Condition
At 7f to 1m
Runs
3,403
Wins
597
Placed
1,329
Win %
17.5%
Place %
39.1%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
1,972
Wins
326
Placed
752
Win %
16.5%
Place %
38.1%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
558
Wins
100
Placed
223
Win %
17.9%
Place %
40.0%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Galileo (IRE) × Zafonic mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat10550.0%06181813.1%£160,969€108,696
National Hunt3133.3%0273511.1%£17,748€0
All runs10660.0%088112312.5%£178,717€108,696
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
10
Winners
5
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
61
Wins
8
2nd/3rd
18
Win %
13.1%
Prize GB (£)
£160,969
Prize IRE (€)
€108,696
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
3
Winners
1
Winners %
33.3%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
27
Wins
3
2nd/3rd
5
Win %
11.1%
Prize GB (£)
£17,748
Prize IRE (€)
€0
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
10
Winners
6
Winners %
60.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
88
Wins
11
2nd/3rd
23
Win %
12.5%
Prize GB (£)
£178,717
Prize IRE (€)
€108,696

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Almagest (GB)3240£29,276€0
Forget It (GB)2530£17,283€0
Amber Grey (IRE)310£0€9,063
Circle (IRE)710£0€15,260
Chabal (IRE)710£10,667€59,693
The Mediterranean (IRE)810£121,491€23,705
Pursuitoexcellence (IRE)100£0€0
Astronomy Domine (GB)100£0€0
Optimist (IRE)200£0€975
Vakiyla (FR)200£0€0
Almagest (GB)
Runs
32
Wins
4
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£29,276
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Forget It (GB)
Runs
25
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£17,283
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Amber Grey (IRE)
Runs
3
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€9,063
Circle (IRE)
Runs
7
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€15,260
Chabal (IRE)
Runs
7
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£10,667
Prize IRE (€)
€59,693
The Mediterranean (IRE)
Runs
8
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£121,491
Prize IRE (€)
€23,705
Pursuitoexcellence (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Astronomy Domine (GB)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Optimist (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€975
Vakiyla (FR)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Grecian Glory (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
4 winners from 8 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Barathea (IRE)

By Hawk Wing (USA)

By Duke Of Marmalade (IRE)

By Zebedee (GB)

By Kodiac (GB)

By Dragon Pulse (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Grecian Glory (IRE) · by Zafonic (USA)
  2. 2Grecian Urn (GB)

Notable relatives

Uncle (out of 2nd dam)

View full Grecian Urn family

In brief

When was Optimist foaled?

Optimist (IRE) was foaled in 2009.

Who are the sire and dam of Optimist?

Optimist (IRE) is by Galileo (IRE) out of Grecian Glory (IRE), a daughter of Zafonic (USA).

Who trained Optimist?

Optimist (IRE) was trained by David Wachman and owned by Mrs John Magnier at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Optimist's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Optimist (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Optimist still racing?

Optimist (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 24 September 2011 at Gowran Park (IRE) in the Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund 2yo Maiden, finishing 4th of 15, and has not run there since.

Is Optimist related to any top horses?

Optimist (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Dark Shell (IRE) (uncle, Listed winner), from the Grecian Urn (GB) family.

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