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Horse profile

Not So Soon

Beau Charmeur (FR) × Willie's Sister (GB) (Even Money)
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1985
Highest OR
98
Record (GB & IRE)
1 win from 12 runs (8%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£5,526 GB
Last run (GB & IRE)
24 Apr 1993, Market Rasen (2/7)
Last win (GB & IRE)
18 Dec 1992, Fakenham
Recent form
62347241PUPU22

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
24 Apr 93Market Rasen2/7100/308J RailtonKim BaileyWhite Swan Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3mGood11-10-The Red One (GB)£3,210120/5
12 Apr 93Market Rasen2/107/12Mr M ArmytageKim BaileyWest Lindsey Easter Cup Novices' Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase3mSoft11-098Catchapenny (GB)£3,118740/8
28 Jan 93HuntingdonPU/97/2-S McNeillKim BaileyBet With Tote Novices' Chase QualifierNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m7½fGood11-3-Saddler's Choice (GB)£2,854222/7
6 Jan 93LingfieldPU/135/1-S McNeillKim BaileyHaxted Novices' Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase3mHeavy11-798Silverino (GB)£2,883190/12
18 Dec 92Fakenham1/87/1won 1S McNeillKim BaileyCottesmore Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase2m5fSoft11-2-Interpretation (NZ)£2,194460/5
2 Nov 92Wolverhampton4/123/127¾A ToryKim BaileyMoseley Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3m1fGood10-12-Light Veneer (GB)£2,265281/11
5 Oct 92Southwell2/57/18A ToryKim BaileyKershaw Tudor Handicap ChaseHandicap (unclassified)Chase2m4½fGood to Soft10-097Well Wrapped (GB)£1,3841631/4
25 Apr 92Worcester7/199/18½S McNeillKim BaileyBattenhall Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle3mGood to Firm11-3-Fino (GB)£1,235120/16
13 Apr 92Huntingdon4/1713/227½S McNeillKim BaileyCoppingford Maiden HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m4fFirm11-7-Bankroll I (GB)£1,305252/13
19 Mar 92Towcester3/148/11F15¼R DunwoodyKim BaileyDurham Ranger Maiden Hurdle (Div I)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m5fGood to Soft11-7-Burgundy Boy I (GB)£1,235130/12
6 Mar 92Sandown2/134/1¾A ToryKim BaileyBeech 'national Hunt' Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m5½fGood11-0-Vicompt De Valmont (GB)£2,688210/12
14 Feb 92Sandown6/1010/128¾A ToryKim BaileyEBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle QualifierNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2mGood11-0-Current Express (GB)£2,425-2/9
  • 2/724 Apr 93 · Market Rasen100/30

    White Swan Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood

    All fields
    Date
    24 Apr 93
    Pos
    2/7
    SP
    100/30
    Btn
    8
    Jockey
    J Railton
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    White Swan Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-10
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    The Red One (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,210
    Days
    12
    Future form
    0/5
  • 2/1012 Apr 93 · Market Rasen7/1

    West Lindsey Easter Cup Novices' Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)3mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    12 Apr 93
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    2
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    West Lindsey Easter Cup Novices' Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    98
    Winner / 2nd
    Catchapenny (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,118
    Days
    74
    Future form
    0/8
  • PU/928 Jan 93 · Huntingdon7/2

    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m7½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    28 Jan 93
    Pos
    PU/9
    SP
    7/2
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m7½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-3
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,854
    Days
    22
    Future form
    2/7
  • PU/136 Jan 93 · Lingfield5/1

    Haxted Novices' Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)3mHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    6 Jan 93
    Course
    Lingfield
    Pos
    PU/13
    SP
    5/1
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Haxted Novices' Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    98
    Winner / 2nd
    Silverino (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,883
    Days
    19
    Future form
    0/12
  • 1/818 Dec 92 · Fakenham7/1

    Cottesmore Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m5fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    18 Dec 92
    Course
    Fakenham
    Pos
    1/8
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    won 1
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Cottesmore Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-2
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,194
    Days
    46
    Future form
    0/5
  • 4/122 Nov 92 · Wolverhampton3/1

    Moseley Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3m1fGood

    All fields
    Date
    2 Nov 92
    Pos
    4/12
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    27¾
    Jockey
    A Tory
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Moseley Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m1f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Light Veneer (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,265
    Days
    28
    Future form
    1/11
  • 2/55 Oct 92 · Southwell7/1

    Kershaw Tudor Handicap Chase

    Handicap (unclassified)2m4½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    5 Oct 92
    Course
    Southwell
    Pos
    2/5
    SP
    7/1
    Btn
    8
    Jockey
    A Tory
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Kershaw Tudor Handicap Chase
    Class
    Handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    2m4½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-0
    OR
    97
    Winner / 2nd
    Well Wrapped (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,384
    Days
    163
    Future form
    1/4
  • 7/1925 Apr 92 · Worcester9/1

    Battenhall Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    25 Apr 92
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    7/19
    SP
    9/1
    Btn
    8½
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Battenhall Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-3
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Fino (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,235
    Days
    12
    Future form
    0/16
  • 4/1713 Apr 92 · Huntingdon13/2

    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m4fFirm

    All fields
    Date
    13 Apr 92
    Pos
    4/17
    SP
    13/2
    Btn
    27½
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m4f
    Going
    Firm
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Bankroll I (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,305
    Days
    25
    Future form
    2/13
  • 3/1419 Mar 92 · Towcester8/11F

    Durham Ranger Maiden Hurdle (Div I)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m5fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    19 Mar 92
    Course
    Towcester
    Pos
    3/14
    SP
    8/11F
    Btn
    15¼
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Durham Ranger Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m5f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-7
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £1,235
    Days
    13
    Future form
    0/12
  • 2/136 Mar 92 · Sandown4/1

    Beech 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m5½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    6 Mar 92
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    2/13
    SP
    4/1
    Btn
    ¾
    Jockey
    A Tory
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    Beech 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m5½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,688
    Days
    21
    Future form
    0/12
  • 6/1014 Feb 92 · Sandown10/1

    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood

    All fields
    Date
    14 Feb 92
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    6/10
    SP
    10/1
    Btn
    28¾
    Jockey
    A Tory
    Trainer
    Kim Bailey
    Race
    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £2,425
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/9

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
28 Jan 93HuntingdonBet With Tote Novices' Chase QualifierPU/9Man Of Mystery (GB)53 Apr 93HerefordPandy Novices' Chase
28 Jan 93HuntingdonBet With Tote Novices' Chase QualifierPU/9Pats Minstrel (GB)-1 Mar 93PlumptonCoomes Senior Citizens Novices' Chase
2 Nov 92WolverhamptonMoseley Novices' Chase4/12Dakyns Boy (GB)37 Dec 92WarwickBudbrooke Novices' Chase
5 Oct 92SouthwellKershaw Tudor Handicap Chase2/5Well Wrapped (GB)12 Nov 92WolverhamptonCharlecote Handicap Chase
13 Apr 92HuntingdonCoppingford Maiden Hurdle4/17Early Man (GB)1123 Nov 92FolkestoneBrenchley Novices' Hurdle
13 Apr 92HuntingdonCoppingford Maiden Hurdle4/17Andrews Minstrel (GB)-2 Nov 92PlumptonAutumn Novices' Hurdle
14 Feb 92SandownEBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier6/10Copper Mine (GB)27 Mar 92SandownH.M.S. Sandown 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
14 Feb 92SandownEBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier6/10Off PisteI (GB)42 Mar 92WindsorCollege 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
  • PU/928 Jan 93 · Huntingdon

    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier

    All fields
    Date
    28 Jan 93
    Race
    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier
    This horse
    PU/9
    Winner next time
    Man Of Mystery (GB)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    3 Apr 93
    Race won
    Pandy Novices' Chase
  • PU/928 Jan 93 · Huntingdon

    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier

    All fields
    Date
    28 Jan 93
    Race
    Bet With Tote Novices' Chase Qualifier
    This horse
    PU/9
    Winner next time
    Pats Minstrel (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    1 Mar 93
    Race won
    Coomes Senior Citizens Novices' Chase
  • 4/122 Nov 92 · Wolverhampton

    Moseley Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    2 Nov 92
    Race
    Moseley Novices' Chase
    This horse
    4/12
    Winner next time
    Dakyns Boy (GB)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    7 Dec 92
    Race won
    Budbrooke Novices' Chase
  • 2/55 Oct 92 · Southwell

    Kershaw Tudor Handicap Chase

    All fields
    Date
    5 Oct 92
    Course
    Southwell
    Race
    Kershaw Tudor Handicap Chase
    This horse
    2/5
    Winner next time
    Well Wrapped (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    2 Nov 92
    Race won
    Charlecote Handicap Chase
  • 4/1713 Apr 92 · Huntingdon

    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    13 Apr 92
    Race
    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    4/17
    Winner next time
    Early Man (GB)
    Their pos
    11
    Won on
    23 Nov 92
    At
    Folkestone
    Race won
    Brenchley Novices' Hurdle
  • 4/1713 Apr 92 · Huntingdon

    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    13 Apr 92
    Race
    Coppingford Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    4/17
    Winner next time
    Andrews Minstrel (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    2 Nov 92
    Race won
    Autumn Novices' Hurdle
  • 6/1014 Feb 92 · Sandown

    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier

    All fields
    Date
    14 Feb 92
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier
    This horse
    6/10
    Winner next time
    Copper Mine (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    7 Mar 92
    Race won
    H.M.S. Sandown 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle
  • 6/1014 Feb 92 · Sandown

    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier

    All fields
    Date
    14 Feb 92
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    EBF Sweetheart 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle Qualifier
    This horse
    6/10
    Winner next time
    Off PisteI (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    2 Mar 92
    Race won
    College 'national Hunt' Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Kim Bailey14 Feb 9224 Apr 936/10979898121418.3%50.0%£5,526€0
Kim Bailey
Trainer
Kim Bailey
First run
14 Feb 92
Last run
24 Apr 93
First run for yard
6/10
OR first run
97
OR last run
98
Best OR
98
Runs
12
Wins
1
2nd
4
3rd
1
Win %
8.3%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt121418.3%50.0%£5,526€09814 Feb 9224 Apr 93
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
12
Wins
1
2nd
4
3rd
1
Win %
8.3%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
98
First run
14 Feb 92
Last run
24 Apr 93

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle50110.0%40.0%£905€0
Chase713014.3%57.1%£4,621€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£905
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
7
Wins
1
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
14.3%
Place %
57.1%
Prize GB (£)
£4,621
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Firm10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Firm10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good50200.0%40.0%£1,858€0
Good to Soft20110.0%100.0%£539€0
Soft211050.0%100.0%£3,129€0
Heavy10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Firm
Going
Firm
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
40.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,858
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£539
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,129
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Heavy
Going
Heavy
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m2f to 2m5f411125.0%75.0%£2,733€0
2m6f to 3m1f70300.0%42.9%£2,793€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
4
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
25.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,733
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
7
Wins
0
2nd
3
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
42.9%
Prize GB (£)
£2,793
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Huntingdon20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Market Rasen20200.0%100.0%£1,895€0
Sandown20100.0%50.0%£750€0
Fakenham1100100.0%100.0%£2,194€0
Lingfield10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Southwell10100.0%100.0%£384€0
Towcester10010.0%100.0%£155€0
Wolverhampton10000.0%0.0%£148€0
Worcester10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Huntingdon
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Market Rasen
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,895
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sandown
Course
Sandown
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£750
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Fakenham
Course
Fakenham
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,194
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Lingfield
Course
Lingfield
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Southwell
Course
Southwell
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£384
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Towcester
Course
Towcester
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£155
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wolverhampton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£148
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Worcester
Course
Worcester
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)912111.1%44.4%£4,207€0
Handicap (unclassified)30200.0%66.7%£1,319€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
9
Wins
1
2nd
2
3rd
1
Win %
11.1%
Place %
44.4%
Prize GB (£)
£4,207
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Handicap (unclassified)
Class
Handicap (unclassified)
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,319
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners211050.0%100.0%£3,154€0
2 to 5 runners10100.0%100.0%£384€0
9 to 12 runners40100.0%25.0%£1,083€0
13 to 16 runners30110.0%66.7%£905€0
17+ runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
2
Wins
1
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
50.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,154
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2 to 5 runners
Runners
2 to 5 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£384
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
25.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,083
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£905
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January20000.0%0.0%£0€0
February10000.0%0.0%£0€0
March20110.0%100.0%£905€0
April40200.0%50.0%£1,895€0
October10100.0%100.0%£384€0
November10000.0%0.0%£148€0
December1100100.0%100.0%£2,194€0
January
Month
January
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
March
Month
March
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£905
Prize IRE (€)
€0
April
Month
April
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,895
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£384
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£148
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,194
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
S McNeill510020.0%20.0%£2,194€0
A Tory40200.0%50.0%£1,282€0
J Railton10100.0%100.0%£960€0
Mr M Armytage10100.0%100.0%£935€0
R Dunwoody10010.0%100.0%£155€0
S McNeill
Jockey
S McNeill
Runs
5
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
20.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,194
Prize IRE (€)
€0
A Tory
Jockey
A Tory
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,282
Prize IRE (€)
€0
J Railton
Jockey
J Railton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£960
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Mr M Armytage
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£935
Prize IRE (€)
€0
R Dunwoody
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£155
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Kim Bailey121418.3%50.0%£5,526€0
Kim Bailey
Trainer
Kim Bailey
Runs
12
Wins
1
2nd
4
3rd
1
Win %
8.3%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear121418.3%50.0%£5,526€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
12
Wins
1
2nd
4
3rd
1
Win %
8.3%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
8 to 14 days30110.0%66.7%£1,115€0
15 to 30 days50100.0%20.0%£898€0
31 to 60 days1100100.0%100.0%£2,194€0
61 to 120 days10100.0%100.0%£935€0
121 to 365 days10100.0%100.0%£384€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£1,115
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
20.0%
Prize GB (£)
£898
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
1
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
100.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,194
Prize IRE (€)
€0
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£935
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£384
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchBeau Charmeur (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. SireBeau Charmeur (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchWillie's Sister (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamWillie's Sister (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireEven Money
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Beau Charmeur (FR)
Willie's Sister (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Even Money
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseNot So Soon (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled1985
SireBeau Charmeur (FR)
DamWillie's Sister (GB)
DamsireEven Money
Dam's produce1 winners from 1 runners

Female line

  1. Willie's Sister (GB) · 1 winners from 1 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Beau Charmeur (FR)Willie's Sister (GB)Even MoneygeldingFlat 17.0f · NH 2m6fNH 2m5½f
Beau Charmeur (FR)
Damsire
Even Money
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 17.0f · NH 2m6f
Damsire's avg winning distance
NH 2m5½f

Progeny of Beau Charmeur (FR) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs96911328311.7%29.2%121
At 2m2f to 2m5f254387815.0%30.7%41
On Soft going169195011.2%29.6%21
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going4971414.3%28.6%11
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
969
Wins
113
Placed
283
Win %
11.7%
Place %
29.2%
This horse runs
12
This horse wins
1
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
254
Wins
38
Placed
78
Win %
15.0%
Place %
30.7%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
1
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
169
Wins
19
Placed
50
Win %
11.2%
Place %
29.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
1
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
Runs
49
Wins
7
Placed
14
Win %
14.3%
Place %
28.6%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
1

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Beau Charmeur (FR) × Even Money mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt11100.0%012158.3%£5,526€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
1
Winners %
100.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
12
Wins
1
2nd/3rd
5
Win %
8.3%
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Not So Soon (GB)1210£5,526€0
Not So Soon (GB)
Runs
12
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,526
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt9898973
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
98
Highest OR
98
Lowest OR
97
Rated runs
3

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
12 Apr 93Market RasenNH9802/10
6 Jan 93LingfieldNH981PU/13
5 Oct 92SouthwellNH97-2/5

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt98980980
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
98
OR last run
98
Change
0
Highest OR
98
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Willie's Sister (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 1 runners

Full siblings

Not So Soon is the only foal out of Willie's Sister (GB) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

Not So Soon is the only foal out of Willie's Sister (GB) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.

Female line

  1. 1Willie's Sister (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Not So Soon foaled?

Not So Soon (GB) was foaled in 1985.

Who are the sire and dam of Not So Soon?

Not So Soon (GB) is by Beau Charmeur (FR) out of Willie's Sister (GB), a daughter of Even Money.

Who trained Not So Soon?

Not So Soon (GB) was trained by Kim Bailey and owned by J F Bance at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Not So Soon's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Not So Soon (GB) won 1 of 12 races (8%).

What is Not So Soon's biggest win?

Not So Soon (GB)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Cottesmore Novices' Chase at Fakenham on 18 December 1992.

Has Not So Soon ever been beaten?

Not So Soon (GB) was beaten 11 times in 12 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 14 February 1992 at Sandown (6th of 10).

What was Not So Soon's official rating?

Not So Soon (GB) was last officially rated 98 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Not So Soon still racing?

Not So Soon (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 24 April 1993 at Market Rasen in the White Swan Novices' Chase, finishing 2nd of 7, and has not run there since.

What is Not So Soon's record at Huntingdon?

Not So Soon (GB) ran most often at Huntingdon, with no wins from 2 runs there.

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