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Horse profile
Never Say When
- Sex
- horse
- Foaled
- 2018
- Colour
- bay
- Highest OR
- 77
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 4 runs (25%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £5,048 GB
- Last official rating
- 76 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 20 Apr 2021, Epsom (7/8)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 23 Jun 2020, Kempton (AW)
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Apr 21 | Epsom | 7/8 | 14/1 | 10¾ | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael Stoute | Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 1m½f | Good | 9-3 | 76 | - | Patient Dream (FR) | £4,347 | 227 | 2/7 |
| 5 Sep 20 | Kempton (AW) | 8/8 | 11/2 | 9 | Frankie Dettori | Sir Michael Stoute | Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap | Class 4 | Flat AW | 7f | Standard to Slow | 8-13 | 77 | t | Zoffarelli (IRE) | £4,464 | 27 | 1/6 |
| 9 Aug 20 | Salisbury | 4/10 | 7/2 | 6 | Richard Kingscote | Sir Michael Stoute | AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 9-9 | - | - | Minzaal (IRE) | £4,140 | 47 | 2/8 |
| 23 Jun 20 | Kempton (AW) | 1/4 | 15/2 | won hd | Ryan Moore | Sir Michael Stoute | British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard to Slow | 9-5 | - | - | Running Back (IRE) | £4,140 | - | 0/3 |
Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
Class 41m½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 21
- Course
- Epsom
- Pos
- 7/8
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- 10¾
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 76
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Patient Dream (FR)
- Winner prize
- £4,347
- Days
- 227
- Future form
- 2/7
- 8/85 Sep 20 · Kempton (AW)11/2
Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap
Class 47fStandard to Slow
All fields
- Date
- 5 Sep 20
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 8/8
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- 9
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Wgt
- 8-13
- OR
- 77
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Zoffarelli (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,464
- Days
- 27
- Future form
- 1/6
AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
Class 56fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 9 Aug 20
- Course
- Salisbury
- Pos
- 4/10
- SP
- 7/2
- Btn
- 6
- Jockey
- Richard Kingscote
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-9
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Minzaal (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,140
- Days
- 47
- Future form
- 2/8
- 1/423 Jun 20 · Kempton (AW)15/2
British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes
Class 56fStandard to Slow
All fields
- Date
- 23 Jun 20
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 1/4
- SP
- 15/2
- Btn
- won hd
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Race
- British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Running Back (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £4,140
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/3
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Apr 21 | Epsom | Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap | 7/8 | Il Bandito (IRE) | 3 | 29 May 21 | Haydock | Betway Casino Handicap |
| 20 Apr 21 | Epsom | Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap | 7/8 | Siam Fox (IRE) | 6 | 2 Jun 21 | Nottingham | MansionBet #Betstival Handicap |
| 5 Sep 20 | Kempton (AW) | Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap | 8/8 | Final Voyage (IRE) | 3 | 6 Oct 20 | Southwell (AW) | Sky Sports Racing On Sky 415 Novice Stakes |
| 9 Aug 20 | Salisbury | AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes | 4/10 | Minzaal (IRE) | 1 | 21 Aug 20 | York | Al Basti Equiworld Dubai Gimcrack Stakes (Colts & Geldings) |
| 9 Aug 20 | Salisbury | AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes | 4/10 | Round Six (IRE) | 6 | 18 Aug 20 | Kempton (AW) | Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes |
- 7/820 Apr 21 · Epsom
Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 21
- Course
- Epsom
- Race
- Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
- This horse
- 7/8
- Winner next time
- Il Bandito (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 29 May 21
- At
- Haydock
- Race won
- Betway Casino Handicap
- 7/820 Apr 21 · Epsom
Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 20 Apr 21
- Course
- Epsom
- Race
- Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap
- This horse
- 7/8
- Winner next time
- Siam Fox (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 2 Jun 21
- Race won
- MansionBet #Betstival Handicap
- 8/85 Sep 20 · Kempton (AW)
Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 5 Sep 20
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Race
- Try Our New Super Boosts At Unibet Nursery Handicap
- This horse
- 8/8
- Winner next time
- Final Voyage (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 6 Oct 20
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- Sky Sports Racing On Sky 415 Novice Stakes
- 4/109 Aug 20 · Salisbury
AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 9 Aug 20
- Course
- Salisbury
- Race
- AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Minzaal (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 21 Aug 20
- At
- York
- Race won
- Al Basti Equiworld Dubai Gimcrack Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- 4/109 Aug 20 · Salisbury
AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 9 Aug 20
- Course
- Salisbury
- Race
- AJN Steelstock Kentford British EBF Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Round Six (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 18 Aug 20
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- Unibet/British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sir Michael Stoute | 23 Jun 20 | 20 Apr 21 | 1/4 | 77 | 76 | 77 | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,048 | €0 |
Sir Michael Stoute
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- First run
- 23 Jun 20
- Last run
- 20 Apr 21
- First run for yard
- 1/4
- OR first run
- 77
- OR last run
- 76
- Best OR
- 77
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,048
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,048 | €0 | 77 | 23 Jun 20 | 20 Apr 21 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,048
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 77
- First run
- 23 Jun 20
- Last run
- 20 Apr 21
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £608 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,440 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £608
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,440
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £308 | €0 | ||
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| Standard to Slow | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,440 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £308
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard to Slow
- Going
- Standard to Slow
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,440
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,448 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| 9f to 11f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,448
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9f to 11f
- Distance
- 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £600 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,448 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £600
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,448
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,140 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £600 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £308 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,140
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £600
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £308
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,140 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £308 | €0 | ||
| September | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,140
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £308
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
September
- Month
- September
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ryan Moore | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,440 | €0 | ||
| Frankie Dettori | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| Richard Kingscote | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £308 | €0 |
Ryan Moore
- Jockey
- Ryan Moore
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,440
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Frankie Dettori
- Jockey
- Frankie Dettori
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Richard Kingscote
- Jockey
- Richard Kingscote
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £308
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Sir Michael Stoute | 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £5,048 | €0 |
Sir Michael Stoute
- Trainer
- Sir Michael Stoute
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,048
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,748 | €0 | ||
| t | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,748
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,140 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £308 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,140
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £308
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £300 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,748 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £300
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,748
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNo Nay Never (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
- Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLady Soldier (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireErewhon (USA)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Lady Soldier (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No Nay Never (USA) | Lady Soldier (IRE) | Erewhon (USA) | Peadar McCaghey | 12 Mar 18 | bay | horse | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m | Flat 6.0f |
No Nay Never (USA)
- Damsire
- Erewhon (USA)
- Breeder
- Peadar McCaghey
- Foaled
- 12 Mar 18
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- horse
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.0f
Progeny of No Nay Never (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,486 | 669 | 1,671 | 4 | 1 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,434 | 332 | 801 | 2 | 1 | ||
| On AW going | 1,894 | 221 | 564 | 2 | 1 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 708 | 89 | 230 | 1 | 1 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,486
- Wins
- 669
- Placed
- 1,671
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 1
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,434
- Wins
- 332
- Placed
- 801
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,894
- Wins
- 221
- Placed
- 564
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 708
- Wins
- 89
- Placed
- 230
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
No Nay Never (USA) × Erewhon (USA) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 1 | 0 | 4 | 1 | 0 | £5,048 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,048
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Never Say When (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 0 | £5,048 | €0 |
Never Say When (IRE)
- Horse
- Never Say When (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,048
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 76 | 77 | 76 | 2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 76
- Highest OR
- 77
- Lowest OR
- 76
- Rated runs
- 2
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 20 Apr 21 | Epsom | Flat | 76 | -1 | 7/8 |
| 5 Sep 20 | Kempton (AW) | Flat | 77 | - | 8/8 |
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 76 | 76 | 0 | 77 | -1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 76
- OR last run
- 76
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 77
- v highest
- -1
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by No Nay Never (USA) out of Lady Soldier (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Gleneagles (IRE)
- Golden Belle (IRE)0W · 1R
Female line
- 1Lady Soldier (IRE)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Never Say When foaled?
Never Say When (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 12 March 2018.
Who are the sire and dam of Never Say When?
Never Say When (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Lady Soldier (IRE), a daughter of Erewhon (USA), and was bred by Peadar McCaghey.
Who trained Never Say When?
Never Say When (IRE) was trained by Sir Michael Stoute and owned by Mohamed Obaida at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Never Say When's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Never Say When (IRE) won 1 of 4 races (25%).
What is Never Say When's biggest win?
Never Say When (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the British Stallion Studs EBF Novice Stakes at Kempton (AW) on 23 June 2020.
Has Never Say When ever been beaten?
Never Say When (IRE) was beaten 3 times in 4 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 9 August 2020 at Salisbury (4th of 10).
What was Never Say When's official rating?
Never Say When (IRE) was last officially rated 76 on the Flat (career high 77).
Is Never Say When still racing?
Never Say When (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 20 April 2021 at Epsom in the Jockey Club Thanks All Owners Handicap, finishing 7th of 8, and has not run there since.
What is Never Say When's record at Kempton (AW)?
Never Say When (IRE) ran most often at Kempton (AW), with 1 win from 2 runs there.
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