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Horse profile
Never Know (GB)
- TrainerChris Down
- OwnerMrs F Down
- FamilyGold Label
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2003
See also: Never Know (IRE) · Stuart Williams · 3 runs · 0 wins
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 12 May 2009, Newton Abbot (5/9)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 May 09 | Newton Abbot | 5/9 | 66/1 | dist | Chris Honour | Chris Down | Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m2½f | Good to Firm | 10-9 | b | Ambrose Princess (IRE) | £3,578 | 7 | 1/7 |
| 5 May 09 | Exeter | PU/18 | 100/1 | - | Chris Honour | Chris Down | Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m1f | Good to Firm | 10-4 | - | Red Lancer (GB) | £2,927 | - | 1/16 |
Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle
Class 42m2½fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 12 May 09
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Pos
- 5/9
- SP
- 66/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Chris Honour
- Trainer
- Chris Down
- Race
- Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m2½f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 10-9
- Headgear
- b
- Winner / 2nd
- Ambrose Princess (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,578
- Days
- 7
- Future form
- 1/7
Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle
Class 42m1fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 09
- Course
- Exeter
- Pos
- PU/18
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Chris Honour
- Trainer
- Chris Down
- Race
- Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m1f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 10-4
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Red Lancer (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,927
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/16
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12 May 09 | Newton Abbot | Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle | 5/9 | Ambrose Princess (IRE) | 1 | 28 May 09 | Wetherby | Thoroughbred Breeders Association Golf Day Mares' Novices' Hurdle |
| 5 May 09 | Exeter | Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle | PU/18 | Shut The Bar (GB) | 3 | 16 May 09 | Bangor-on-Dee | Malam "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle |
- 5/912 May 09 · Newton Abbot
Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 12 May 09
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Race
- Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- This horse
- 5/9
- Winner next time
- Ambrose Princess (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 28 May 09
- At
- Wetherby
- Race won
- Thoroughbred Breeders Association Golf Day Mares' Novices' Hurdle
- PU/185 May 09 · Exeter
Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 5 May 09
- Course
- Exeter
- Race
- Farmers Friend of Exeter Maiden Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/18
- Winner next time
- Shut The Bar (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 16 May 09
- Race won
- Malam "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chris Down | 5 May 09 | 12 May 09 | PU/18 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Chris Down
- Trainer
- Chris Down
- First run
- 5 May 09
- Last run
- 12 May 09
- First run for yard
- PU/18
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 5 May 09 | 12 May 09 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 5 May 09
- Last run
- 12 May 09
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchDouble Trigger (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireEla-Mana-Mou (IRE)
- Sire's damSolac (FR)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchGolden Mile (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireKing's Ride (IRE)
- Dam's damGold Label (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Golden Mile (IRE) · by King's Ride (IRE) · 3 winners from 4 runners
- Gold Label (GB) · 2 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Double Trigger (IRE) | Golden Mile (IRE) | King's Ride (IRE) | mare | Flat 14.6f · NH 2m5f | Flat 14.5f · NH 2m4f |
Double Trigger (IRE)
- Damsire
- King's Ride (IRE)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 14.6f · NH 2m5f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 14.5f · NH 2m4f
Progeny of Double Trigger (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 1,823 | 163 | 454 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 512 | 34 | 95 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to firm or firmer going | 204 | 24 | 55 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going | 61 | 5 | 13 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 1,823
- Wins
- 163
- Placed
- 454
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 512
- Wins
- 34
- Placed
- 95
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- On Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 204
- Wins
- 24
- Placed
- 55
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 61
- Wins
- 5
- Placed
- 13
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Double Trigger (IRE) × King's Ride mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 1 | 0 | 16 | 1 | 2 | £6,145 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,145
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Timetwogo (GB) | 14 | 1 | 0 | £6,145 | €0 |
| Never Know (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Timetwogo (GB)
- Horse
- Timetwogo (GB)
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,145
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Never Know (GB)
- Horse
- Never Know (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
- Timetwogo (GB)1W · 14R
Half siblings
By Sir Harry Lewis (USA)
- Harry's Farewell (GB)4W · 15R
By Erhaab (USA)
- Fivefortyfive (GB)1W · 5R
Female line
- 1Golden Mile (IRE) · by King's Ride (IRE)
- 2Gold Label (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Never Know foaled?
Never Know (GB) was foaled in 2003.
Who are the sire and dam of Never Know?
Never Know (GB) is by Double Trigger (IRE) out of Golden Mile (IRE), a daughter of King's Ride (IRE).
Who trained Never Know?
Never Know (GB) was trained by Chris Down and owned by Mrs F Down at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Never Know's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Never Know (GB) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Never Know still racing?
Never Know (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 12 May 2009 at Newton Abbot in the Paddock Restaurant Mares' Novices' Hurdle, finishing 5th of 9, and has not run there since.
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