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Horse profile
Never Know (IRE)
- TrainerStuart Williams
- OwnerMohammad Bin Owaimar
- FamilyJoma Kaanem
- Sex
- colt
- Foaled
- 2022
- Colour
- bay
See also: Never Know (GB) · Chris Down · 2 runs · 0 wins
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £491 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 18 Jul 2024, Epsom (9/10)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 Jul 24 | Epsom | 9/10 | 40/1 | 24 | Callum Shepherd | Stuart Williams | Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good | 9-7 | Attack (GB) | £5,400 | 28 | 1/9 |
| 20 Jun 24 | Chelmsford (AW) | 4/10 | 12/1 | 4½ | Alistair Rawlinson | James Tate | Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-7 | Sunshine State (GB) | £4,187 | 16 | 1/9 |
| 4 Jun 24 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 8/11 | 9/2 | 6¼ | Neil Callan | James Tate | Get Raceday Ready EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 5f | Standard | 9-7 | Where's Clare (IRE) | £3,942 | - | 0/10 |
Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes
Class 47fGood
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 24
- Course
- Epsom
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 24
- Jockey
- Callum Shepherd
- Trainer
- Stuart Williams
- Race
- Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Attack (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,400
- Days
- 28
- Future form
- 1/9
- 4/1020 Jun 24 · Chelmsford (AW)12/1
Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jun 24
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Pos
- 4/10
- SP
- 12/1
- Btn
- 4½
- Jockey
- Alistair Rawlinson
- Trainer
- James Tate
- Race
- Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Sunshine State (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,187
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 1/9
- 8/114 Jun 24 · Wolverhampton (AW)9/2
Get Raceday Ready EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
Class 55fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jun 24
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 8/11
- SP
- 9/2
- Btn
- 6¼
- Jockey
- Neil Callan
- Trainer
- James Tate
- Race
- Get Raceday Ready EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Where's Clare (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,942
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 18 Jul 24 | Epsom | Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes | 9/10 | Spell Master (GB) | 2 | 3 Aug 24 | Goodwood | British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes (Colts & Geldings) |
| 20 Jun 24 | Chelmsford (AW) | Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes | 4/10 | Cyclonite (USA) | 2 | 2 Aug 24 | Newcastle (AW) | JPS Ceilings And Partitions Nursery Handicap |
- 9/1018 Jul 24 · Epsom
Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 18 Jul 24
- Course
- Epsom
- Race
- Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 9/10
- Winner next time
- Spell Master (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 3 Aug 24
- At
- Goodwood
- Race won
- British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- 4/1020 Jun 24 · Chelmsford (AW)
Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jun 24
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Race
- Art Deco 1er Cru EBF Restricted Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/10
- Winner next time
- Cyclonite (USA)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 2 Aug 24
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- JPS Ceilings And Partitions Nursery Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Stuart Williams | James Tate | 18 Jul 24 | 18 Jul 24 | 9/10 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| James Tate | - | 4 Jun 24 | 20 Jun 24 | 8/11 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Stuart Williams
- Trainer
- Stuart Williams
- Moved from
- James Tate
- First run
- 18 Jul 24
- Last run
- 18 Jul 24
- First run for yard
- 9/10
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
James Tate
- Trainer
- James Tate
- First run
- 4 Jun 24
- Last run
- 20 Jun 24
- First run for yard
- 8/11
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | 4 Jun 24 | 18 Jul 24 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 4 Jun 24
- Last run
- 18 Jul 24
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Chelmsford (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | ||
| Epsom | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Chelmsford (AW)
- Course
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Epsom
- Course
- Epsom
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| June | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alistair Rawlinson | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | ||
| Callum Shepherd | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Neil Callan | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Alistair Rawlinson
- Jockey
- Alistair Rawlinson
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Callum Shepherd
- Jockey
- Callum Shepherd
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Neil Callan
- Jockey
- Neil Callan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| James Tate | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 | ||
| Stuart Williams | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
James Tate
- Trainer
- James Tate
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Stuart Williams
- Trainer
- Stuart Williams
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNo Nay Never (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
- Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchKnock Stars (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSoviet Star (USA)
- Dam's damKnockatotaun (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireSpectrum (IRE)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Knock Stars (IRE) · by Soviet Star (USA) · 4 winners from 6 runners · Black-type placed
- Knockatotaun (GB) · by Spectrum (IRE) · 6 winners from 7 runners
- Genial Jenny (IRE) · by Danehill (USA) · 6 winners from 9 runners
- Joma Kaanem (GB) · 6 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No Nay Never (USA) | Knock Stars (IRE) | Soviet Star (USA) | Pier House Stud | 19 Apr 22 | bay | colt | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m | Flat 7.9f · NH 2m2½f |
No Nay Never (USA)
- Damsire
- Soviet Star (USA)
- Breeder
- Pier House Stud
- Foaled
- 19 Apr 22
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- colt
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.9f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of No Nay Never (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,484 | 669 | 1,671 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,433 | 332 | 801 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 1,893 | 221 | 564 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 708 | 89 | 230 | 2 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,484
- Wins
- 669
- Placed
- 1,671
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,433
- Wins
- 332
- Placed
- 801
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,893
- Wins
- 221
- Placed
- 564
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 708
- Wins
- 89
- Placed
- 230
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
No Nay Never (USA) × Soviet Star (USA) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Never Know (IRE) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £491 | €0 |
Never Know (IRE)
- Horse
- Never Know (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £491
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Black-type placed
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 4 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by No Nay Never (USA) out of Knock Stars (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Kodiac (GB)
- Terrier Spirit (IRE)1W · 4R
By Slade Power (IRE)
- Knock Knock (IRE)0W · 4R
By Aclaim (IRE)
- Royal Aclaim (IRE)3W · 7R · 1 black-type
By Sioux Nation (USA)
- Pop Star (IRE)5W · 36R
- Sioux Warrior (IRE)2W · 29R
Female line
- 1Knock Stars (IRE) · by Soviet Star (USA)
- 2Knockatotaun (GB) · by Spectrum (IRE)
- 3Genial Jenny (IRE) · by Danehill (USA)
- 4Joma Kaanem (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-sister
- Royal Aclaim (IRE)3W · 7R · 1 black-type
Great-aunt (out of 3rd dam)
- Indiana Gal (IRE)6W · 44R · 2 black-type
In brief
How old is Never Know?
Never Know (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 19 April 2022 and is 4 years old.
Who are the sire and dam of Never Know?
Never Know (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Knock Stars (IRE), a daughter of Soviet Star (USA), and was bred by Pier House Stud.
Who trained Never Know?
Never Know (IRE) was trained by Stuart Williams and owned by Mohammad Bin Owaimar at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for James Tate.
What is Never Know's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Never Know (IRE) ran 3 times without winning.
Is Never Know still racing?
Never Know (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 18 July 2024 at Epsom in the Betfred Play Fred's £5 Million EBF Maiden Stakes, finishing 9th of 10, and has not run there since.
Is Never Know related to any top horses?
Never Know (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Royal Aclaim (IRE) (half-sister, Listed winner) and Indiana Gal (IRE) (great-aunt, Listed winner), from the Joma Kaanem (GB) family.
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