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Horse profile

Makes No Sense

Vinnie Roe (IRE) × Noisy Kiss (IRE) (Executive Perk (GB))

Sex: gelding
Foaled: 2007

Record (GB & IRE): 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE): £0
Last run (GB & IRE): 24 Jun 2012, Gowran Park (IRE) (16/19)
Last win (GB & IRE): Never won

Recent form

1216

Form

Race record

Date	Course	Pos	SP	Btn	Jockey	Trainer	Race	Class	Type	Dist	Going	Wgt	Winner / 2nd	Winner prize	Days	Future form
24 Jun 12	Gowran Park (IRE)	16/19	40/1	dist	Mr M N Doran	Michael Cullen	Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle	Non-handicap (unclassified)	Hurdle	2m2f	Soft	11-7	Maxim Gorky (IRE)	€6,900	66	2/18
19 Apr 12	Tipperary (IRE)	12/17	16/1	dist	Mr B O'Neill	Michael Cullen	Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race	Non-handicap (unclassified)	NH Flat	2m	Soft	11-9	Definite Dream I (IRE)	€4,830	-	1/16

16/1924 Jun 12 · Gowran Park (IRE)40/1
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fSoft
All fields
Date
24 Jun 12
Course
Gowran Park (IRE)
Pos
16/19
SP
40/1
Btn
dist
Jockey
Mr M N Doran
Trainer
Michael Cullen
Race
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
Hurdle
Dist
2m2f
Going
Soft
Wgt
11-7
Winner / 2nd
Maxim Gorky (IRE)
Winner prize
€6,900
Days
66
Future form
2/18
12/1719 Apr 12 · Tipperary (IRE)16/1
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
Date
19 Apr 12
Course
Tipperary (IRE)
Pos
12/17
SP
16/1
Btn
dist
Jockey
Mr B O'Neill
Trainer
Michael Cullen
Race
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
NH Flat
Dist
2m
Going
Soft
Wgt
11-9
Winner / 2nd
Definite Dream I (IRE)
Winner prize
€4,830
Days
-
Future form
1/16

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Date	Course	Race	This horse	Winner next time	Their pos	Won on	At	Race won
24 Jun 12	Gowran Park (IRE)	Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle	16/19	Zuzka (IRE)	3	15 Jul 12	Sligo (IRE)	Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Mares Maiden Hurdle
24 Jun 12	Gowran Park (IRE)	Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle	16/19	Thomas Edison (IRE)	-	7 Jul 12	Bellewstown (IRE)	Buck Mooneys 5yo Maiden Hurdle
19 Apr 12	Tipperary (IRE)	Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race	12/17	Ally Cascade (IRE)	3	13 Oct 12	Fairyhouse (IRE)	Fairyhouse Sponsors Nina Carberry (C & G) Flat Race

16/1924 Jun 12 · Gowran Park (IRE)
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
All fields
Date
24 Jun 12
Course
Gowran Park (IRE)
Race
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
This horse
16/19
Winner next time
Zuzka (IRE)
Their pos
3
Won on
15 Jul 12
At
Sligo (IRE)
Race won
Irish Stallion Farms European Breeders Fund Mares Maiden Hurdle
16/1924 Jun 12 · Gowran Park (IRE)
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
All fields
Date
24 Jun 12
Course
Gowran Park (IRE)
Race
Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle
This horse
16/19
Winner next time
Thomas Edison (IRE)
Their pos
-
Won on
7 Jul 12
At
Bellewstown (IRE)
Race won
Buck Mooneys 5yo Maiden Hurdle
12/1719 Apr 12 · Tipperary (IRE)
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
All fields
Date
19 Apr 12
Course
Tipperary (IRE)
Race
Tipperary Racecourse Events INH Flat Race
This horse
12/17
Winner next time
Ally Cascade (IRE)
Their pos
3
Won on
13 Oct 12
At
Fairyhouse (IRE)
Race won
Fairyhouse Sponsors Nina Carberry (C & G) Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

Trainer	First run	Last run	First run for yard	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Michael Cullen	19 Apr 12	24 Jun 12	12/17	2	0	0	0	0.0%	0.0%	£0	€0

Michael Cullen

Trainer: Michael Cullen
First run: 19 Apr 12
Last run: 24 Jun 12
First run for yard: 12/17
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Code	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)	First run	Last run
National Hunt	2	0	0	0	0.0%	0.0%	£0	€0	19 Apr 12	24 Jun 12

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0
First run: 19 Apr 12
Last run: 24 Jun 12

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Sire branchVinnie Roe (IRE)

Parent · 1

SireVinnie Roe (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Sire's sireDefinite Article (GB)
Sire's damKayu (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

Sire's sire's sireNot traced
Sire's sire's damNot traced
Sire's dam's sireNot traced
Sire's dam's damNot traced

Dam branchNoisy Kiss (IRE)

Parent · 1

DamNoisy Kiss (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Dam's sireExecutive Perk (GB)
Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

Dam's sire's sireNot traced
Dam's sire's damNot traced
Dam's dam's sireNot traced
Dam's dam's damNot traced

Vinnie Roe (IRE)

Noisy Kiss (IRE)

Definite Article (GB)

Kayu (GB)

Executive Perk (GB)

Not traced

Breeding card

HorseMakes No Sense (IRE)

Sexgelding

Foaled2007

SireVinnie Roe (IRE)

DamNoisy Kiss (IRE)

DamsireExecutive Perk (GB)

Sire's sireDefinite Article (GB)

Sire's damKayu (GB)

Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners

Notable siblingBold As Brass (IRE)

Female line

Noisy Kiss (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Sire	Dam	Damsire	Sex	Sire's avg winning distance	Damsire's avg winning distance
Vinnie Roe (IRE)	Noisy Kiss (IRE)	Executive Perk (GB)	gelding	Flat 13.0f · NH 2m4½f	Flat 8.5f · NH 2m4f

Vinnie Roe (IRE)

Sire: Vinnie Roe (IRE)
Dam: Noisy Kiss (IRE)
Damsire: Executive Perk (GB)
Sex: gelding
Sire's avg winning distance: Flat 13.0f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance: Flat 8.5f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Vinnie Roe (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

Condition	Runs	Wins	Placed	Win %	Place %	This horse runs
All National Hunt runs	3,001	336	817	11.2%	27.2%	2
At 2m to 2m1f	823	95	236	11.5%	28.7%	1
On Soft going	658	72	179	10.9%	27.2%	2
At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going	192	20	53	10.4%	27.6%	1

All National Hunt runs

Condition: All National Hunt runs
Runs: 3,001
Wins: 336
Placed: 817
Win %: 11.2%
Place %: 27.2%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

At 2m to 2m1f

Condition: At 2m to 2m1f
Runs: 823
Wins: 95
Placed: 236
Win %: 11.5%
Place %: 28.7%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

On Soft going

Condition: On Soft going
Runs: 658
Wins: 72
Placed: 179
Win %: 10.9%
Place %: 27.2%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going

Condition: At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going
Runs: 192
Wins: 20
Placed: 53
Win %: 10.4%
Place %: 27.6%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Vinnie Roe (IRE) × Executive Perk mares (the cross)

Code	Runners	Winners	Winners %	Black-type winners	Runs	Wins	2nd/3rd	Win %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt	3	1	33.3%	0	20	1	3	5.0%	£0	€8,423

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runners: 3
Winners: 1
Winners %: 33.3%
Black-type winners: 0
Runs: 20
Wins: 1
2nd/3rd: 3
Win %: 5.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €8,423

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

Horse	Runs	Wins	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Shinahwil (IRE)	17	1	£0	€8,423
Black Chandelier (IRE)	1	0	£0	€0
Makes No Sense (IRE)	2	0	£0	€0

Shinahwil (IRE)

Horse: Shinahwil (IRE)
Runs: 17
Wins: 1
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €8,423

Black Chandelier (IRE)

Horse: Black Chandelier (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0

Makes No Sense (IRE)

Horse: Makes No Sense (IRE)
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Noisy Kiss (IRE)

G1 winners: 0
Produce: 1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Vinnie Roe (IRE) out of Noisy Kiss (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Un Desperado (FR)

Bold As Brass (IRE)2W · 26R

Female line

1Noisy Kiss (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Noisy Kiss family

In brief

When was Makes No Sense foaled?

Makes No Sense (IRE) was foaled in 2007.

Who are the sire and dam of Makes No Sense?

Makes No Sense (IRE) is by Vinnie Roe (IRE) out of Noisy Kiss (IRE), a daughter of Executive Perk (GB).

Who trained Makes No Sense?

Makes No Sense (IRE) was trained by Michael Cullen and owned by Mrs K A Cullen at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Makes No Sense's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Makes No Sense (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Makes No Sense still racing?

Makes No Sense (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 24 June 2012 at Gowran Park (IRE) in the Goresbridge 5yo Maiden Hurdle, finishing 16th of 19, and has not run there since.