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Horse profile
Ifandbutwhen
- TrainerPeter Maher
- OwnerPeter Maher
- FamilyCockney Ground
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2012
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 23 Sep 2017, Navan (IRE) (8/8)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 Sep 17 | Navan (IRE) | 8/8 | 20/1 | dist | Mr B J Walsh | Peter Maher | Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race | Non-handicap (unclassified) | NH Flat | 2m | Yielding | 11-7 | Sally Park (IRE) | €6,468 | 1/7 |
Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mYielding
All fields
- Date
- 23 Sep 17
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Pos
- 8/8
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Mr B J Walsh
- Trainer
- Peter Maher
- Race
- Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Yielding
- Wgt
- 11-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Sally Park (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €6,468
- Future form
- 1/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 Sep 17 | Navan (IRE) | Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race | 8/8 | Sally Park (IRE) | 1 | 15 Oct 17 | Cork (IRE) | Crossmore Tyre Recycling Supporting The Rickie Healy Appeal (Pro/Am) Flat Race |
- 8/823 Sep 17 · Navan (IRE)
Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race
All fields
- Date
- 23 Sep 17
- Course
- Navan (IRE)
- Race
- Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race
- This horse
- 8/8
- Winner next time
- Sally Park (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 15 Oct 17
- Race won
- Crossmore Tyre Recycling Supporting The Rickie Healy Appeal (Pro/Am) Flat Race
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Peter Maher | 23 Sep 17 | 23 Sep 17 | 8/8 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Peter Maher
- Trainer
- Peter Maher
- First run
- 23 Sep 17
- Last run
- 23 Sep 17
- First run for yard
- 8/8
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 23 Sep 17 | 23 Sep 17 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 23 Sep 17
- Last run
- 23 Sep 17
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchBaltic King (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireBaltic King (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanetime (IRE)
- Sire's damLindfield Belle (IRE)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCockney Ground (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCommon Grounds (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Cockney Ground (IRE) · 4 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Baltic King (GB) | Cockney Ground (IRE) | Common Grounds (GB) | gelding | Flat 7.1f · NH 2m1f | Flat 7.2f · NH 2m2f |
Baltic King (GB)
- Sire
- Baltic King (GB)
- Damsire
- Common Grounds (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.1f · NH 2m1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.2f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Baltic King (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 98 | 7 | 21 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 70 | 5 | 14 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 18 | 2 | 7 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going | 12 | 1 | 3 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 98
- Wins
- 7
- Placed
- 21
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 70
- Wins
- 5
- Placed
- 14
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 18
- Wins
- 2
- Placed
- 7
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 1
- Placed
- 3
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Baltic King (GB) × Common Grounds mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ifandbutwhen (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Ifandbutwhen (IRE)
- Horse
- Ifandbutwhen (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 4 winners from 7 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Baltic King (GB) out of Cockney Ground (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Rainbows For Life (CAN)
- Cockney Rainbow (IRE)0W · 4R
By General Monash (USA)
- Cockney Boss (IRE)0W · 9R
By Taipan (IRE)
- Cockney Tai (IRE)1W · 15R
By Raise A Grand (IRE)
- Ifandbutwhy (IRE)2W · 17R
- Ifandbutwhynot (IRE)9W · 54R · 1 black-type
By Mr Dinos (IRE)
- Joy's Gift (IRE)1W · 28R
Female line
- 1Cockney Ground (IRE)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Ifandbutwhynot (IRE)9W · 54R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Ifandbutwhen foaled?
Ifandbutwhen (IRE) was foaled in 2012.
Who are the sire and dam of Ifandbutwhen?
Ifandbutwhen (IRE) is by Baltic King (GB) out of Cockney Ground (IRE), a daughter of Common Grounds (GB).
Who trained Ifandbutwhen?
Ifandbutwhen (IRE) was trained by Peter Maher and owned by Peter Maher at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Ifandbutwhen's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Ifandbutwhen (IRE) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Ifandbutwhen still racing?
Ifandbutwhen (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 23 September 2017 at Navan (IRE) in the Meath Farm Machinery (Pro/Am) Flat Race, finishing 8th of 8, and has not run there since.
Is Ifandbutwhen related to any top horses?
Ifandbutwhen (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Ifandbutwhynot (IRE) (half-brother, Listed winner), from the Cockney Ground (IRE) family.
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