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Horse profile
Idle Tears
- TrainerJohn Gosden
- OwnerHrh Princess Haya Of Jordan
- FamilyVaigly Star
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 2006
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Nov 2008, Newmarket (9/17)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | 9/17 | 25/1 | 8½ | Robert Havlin | John Gosden | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good to Soft | 9-0 | Apple Charlotte (GB) | £4,857 | 5/16 |
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket25/1
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
Class 47fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Pos
- 9/17
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 8½
- Jockey
- Robert Havlin
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Apple Charlotte (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,857
- Future form
- 5/16
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 9/17 | Apple Charlotte (GB) | 1 | 29 Apr 09 | Ascot | X Factor Stakes (Conditions Race) (Fillies) |
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 9/17 | Dialect (GB) | 3 | 19 Nov 08 | Kempton (AW) | digibet E B F Median Auction Maiden Stakes |
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 9/17 | Full Of Love (IRE) | 11 | 4 Apr 09 | Newcastle | J T Dove Maiden Fillies' Stakes |
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 9/17 | Nice Time (IRE) | 13 | 15 Nov 08 | Chelmsford (AW) | E B F Haven House Buddies Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II) |
| 1 Nov 08 | Newmarket | Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I) | 9/17 | Cartoon (GB) | 14 | 20 Apr 09 | Windsor | Yes Events Maiden Fillies' Stakes |
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/17
- Winner next time
- Apple Charlotte (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 29 Apr 09
- At
- Ascot
- Race won
- X Factor Stakes (Conditions Race) (Fillies)
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/17
- Winner next time
- Dialect (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 19 Nov 08
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- digibet E B F Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/17
- Winner next time
- Full Of Love (IRE)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 4 Apr 09
- Race won
- J T Dove Maiden Fillies' Stakes
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/17
- Winner next time
- Nice Time (IRE)
- Their pos
- 13
- Won on
- 15 Nov 08
- At
- Chelmsford (AW)
- Race won
- E B F Haven House Buddies Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
- 9/171 Nov 08 · Newmarket
Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Nov 08
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/17
- Winner next time
- Cartoon (GB)
- Their pos
- 14
- Won on
- 20 Apr 09
- At
- Windsor
- Race won
- Yes Events Maiden Fillies' Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| John Gosden | 1 Nov 08 | 1 Nov 08 | 9/17 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
John Gosden
- Trainer
- John Gosden
- First run
- 1 Nov 08
- Last run
- 1 Nov 08
- First run for yard
- 9/17
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 1 Nov 08 | 1 Nov 08 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 1 Nov 08
- Last run
- 1 Nov 08
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchSelkirk (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireSelkirk (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireSharpen Up (GB)
- Sire's damAnnie Edge (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLand Of Dreams (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCadeaux Genereux (GB)
- Dam's damSahara Star (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireGreen Desert (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Land Of Dreams (GB) · by Cadeaux Genereux (GB) · 5 winners from 9 runners · Group 2 winner (2 black-type wins)
- Sahara Star (GB) · by Green Desert (USA) · 5 winners from 8 runners · Group 3 winner
- Vaigly Star (GB) · 3 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Selkirk (USA) | Land Of Dreams (GB) | Cadeaux Genereux (GB) | filly | Flat 8.8f · NH 2m1½f | Flat 7.5f · NH 2m1½f |
Selkirk (USA)
- Sire
- Selkirk (USA)
- Damsire
- Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.8f · NH 2m1½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.5f · NH 2m1½f
Progeny of Selkirk (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 7,281 | 893 | 2,228 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m | 2,958 | 378 | 942 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 900 | 114 | 304 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going | 379 | 61 | 135 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 7,281
- Wins
- 893
- Placed
- 2,228
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 2,958
- Wins
- 378
- Placed
- 942
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 900
- Wins
- 114
- Placed
- 304
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 379
- Wins
- 61
- Placed
- 135
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Selkirk (USA) × Cadeaux Genereux mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 11 | 6 | 0 | 218 | 20 | 35 | £168,192 | €23,622 | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 11 | 6 | 0 | 220 | 20 | 35 | £168,192 | €23,622 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 11
- Winners
- 6
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 218
- Wins
- 20
- 2nd/3rd
- 35
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £168,192
- Prize IRE (€)
- €23,622
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 11
- Winners
- 6
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 220
- Wins
- 20
- 2nd/3rd
- 35
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £168,192
- Prize IRE (€)
- €23,622
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whistler (GB) | 129 | 11 | 0 | £125,904 | €0 |
| Safwaan (GB) | 32 | 3 | 0 | £8,168 | €0 |
| Makaamen (GB) | 8 | 2 | 0 | £14,489 | €0 |
| Lucky Money (GB) | 12 | 2 | 0 | £6,694 | €0 |
| Only Make Believe (GB) | 8 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €23,622 |
| Mimisel (GB) | 10 | 1 | 0 | £10,977 | €0 |
| Fawn (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Idle Tears (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Margooba (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £1,768 | €0 |
| Exton (GB) | 5 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Ettrick Mill (GB) | 10 | 0 | 0 | £192 | €0 |
Whistler (GB)
- Horse
- Whistler (GB)
- Runs
- 129
- Wins
- 11
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £125,904
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Safwaan (GB)
- Horse
- Safwaan (GB)
- Runs
- 32
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,168
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Makaamen (GB)
- Horse
- Makaamen (GB)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,489
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Lucky Money (GB)
- Horse
- Lucky Money (GB)
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,694
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Only Make Believe (GB)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €23,622
Mimisel (GB)
- Horse
- Mimisel (GB)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £10,977
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Fawn (GB)
- Horse
- Fawn (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Idle Tears (GB)
- Horse
- Idle Tears (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Margooba (IRE)
- Horse
- Margooba (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,768
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Exton (GB)
- Horse
- Exton (GB)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ettrick Mill (GB)
- Horse
- Ettrick Mill (GB)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £192
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Group 2 winner (2 black-type wins)
- G1 winners
- 1
- Produce
- 5 winners from 9 runners
Full siblings
- Only Make Believe (GB)1W · 8R
Half siblings
By Rainbow Quest (USA)
- Into The Dark (GB)5W · 15R · 2 black-type
- William Blake (GB)3W · 24R
By Fantastic Light (USA)
- Dream Shared (GB)0W · 6R
By Diktat (GB)
- Dream Ahead (USA)4W · 6R · 3 G1
By Street Sense (USA)
- Police Force (USA)0W · 4R
By Street Cry (IRE)
- New Style (USA)0W · 3R
By Dubawi (IRE)
- Bin Battuta (GB)4W · 10R
Female line
- 1Land Of Dreams (GB) · by Cadeaux Genereux (GB)
- 2Sahara Star (GB) · by Green Desert (USA)
- 3Vaigly Star (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Dream Ahead (USA)4W · 6R · 3 G1
- Into The Dark (GB)5W · 15R · 2 black-type
Dam
- Land Of Dreams (GB)3W · 11R · 2 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Prague (IRE)2W · 14R · 1 black-type
- Zihba (IRE)3W · 12R · 1 black-type
2nd dam
- Sahara Star (GB)2W · 4R · 1 black-type
First cousin
- Princess Noor (IRE)2W · 6R · 1 black-type
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Yalaietanee (GB)2W · 5R · 1 black-type
Second cousin
- Acklam Express (IRE)4W · 29R · 1 black-type
- Alpha Capture (IRE)4W · 34R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Idle Tears foaled?
Idle Tears (GB) was foaled in 2006.
Who are the sire and dam of Idle Tears?
Idle Tears (GB) is by Selkirk (USA) out of Land Of Dreams (GB), a daughter of Cadeaux Genereux (GB).
Who trained Idle Tears?
Idle Tears (GB) was trained by John Gosden and owned by Hrh Princess Haya Of Jordan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Idle Tears' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Idle Tears (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Idle Tears still racing?
Idle Tears (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 November 2008 at Newmarket in the Casino At bet365.com EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes, finishing 9th of 17, and has not run there since.
Is Idle Tears related to any top horses?
Idle Tears (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Dream Ahead (USA) (half-brother, Group 1 winner), Land Of Dreams (GB) (dam, Group 2 winner) and Into The Dark (GB) (half-brother, Listed winner), from the Vaigly Star (GB) family.
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