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Horse profile
Forevertheoptimist
- TrainerLinda Stubbs
- OwnerG T Bloodstock
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2009
- Highest OR
- 97
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 2 wins from 7 runs (29%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £15,636 GB
- Last official rating
- 97 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Oct 2011, Ascot (7/16)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- 1 Jul 2011, Sandown
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Oct 11 | Ascot | 7/16 | 20/1 | 5¼ | Kieren Fallon | Linda Stubbs | Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes | Group 3 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 9-0 | 97 | Ponty Acclaim (IRE) | £19,849 | 42 | 1/12 |
| 20 Aug 11 | York | 9/10 | 11/1 | 12 | Kieren Fallon | Linda Stubbs | Julia Graves Roses Stakes | Listed | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 9-3 | 97 | My Propeller (IRE) | £14,800 | 50 | 0/9 |
| 1 Jul 11 | Sandown | 1/6 | 9/1 | won hd | Kieren Fallon | Linda Stubbs | Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes | Listed | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 9-2 | - | Kohala (IRE) | £12,193 | 15 | 1/5 |
| 16 Jun 11 | Ascot | 7/15 | 33/1 | 7½ | Kieren Fallon | Linda Stubbs | Norfolk Stakes | Group 2 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good to Soft | 9-1 | - | Bapak Chinta (USA) | £42,578 | 34 | 2/13 |
| 13 May 11 | Newcastle | 4/4 | 4/6F | dist | Paul Mulrennan | Linda Stubbs | La Taxis Novice Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 9-5 | - | He's So Cool (IRE) | £3,238 | 13 | 1/3 |
| 30 Apr 11 | Doncaster | 1/6 | 7/2C | won 1 | Tom Eaves | Linda Stubbs | Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good to Firm | 9-3 | - | Bannock (IRE) | £2,914 | 22 | 2/4 |
| 8 Apr 11 | Newcastle | 3/5 | 3/1 | ½ | Kieren Fallon | Linda Stubbs | swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 9-3 | - | Marford Missile (IRE) | £1,943 | - | 1/4 |
Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes
Group 35fGood
All fields
- Date
- 1 Oct 11
- Course
- Ascot
- Pos
- 7/16
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 5¼
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes
- Class
- Group 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-0
- OR
- 97
- Winner / 2nd
- Ponty Acclaim (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £19,849
- Days
- 42
- Future form
- 1/12
Julia Graves Roses Stakes
Listed5fGood
All fields
- Date
- 20 Aug 11
- Course
- York
- Pos
- 9/10
- SP
- 11/1
- Btn
- 12
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- Julia Graves Roses Stakes
- Class
- Listed
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- 97
- Winner / 2nd
- My Propeller (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £14,800
- Days
- 50
- Future form
- 0/9
Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes
Listed5fGood
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jul 11
- Course
- Sandown
- Pos
- 1/6
- SP
- 9/1
- Btn
- won hd
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes
- Class
- Listed
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-2
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Kohala (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £12,193
- Days
- 15
- Future form
- 1/5
Norfolk Stakes
Group 25fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 16 Jun 11
- Course
- Ascot
- Pos
- 7/15
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 7½
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- Norfolk Stakes
- Class
- Group 2
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-1
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Bapak Chinta (USA)
- Winner prize
- £42,578
- Days
- 34
- Future form
- 2/13
La Taxis Novice Stakes
Class 46fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 13 May 11
- Course
- Newcastle
- Pos
- 4/4
- SP
- 4/6F
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Paul Mulrennan
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- La Taxis Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- He's So Cool (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,238
- Days
- 13
- Future form
- 1/3
Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
Class 55fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 30 Apr 11
- Course
- Doncaster
- Pos
- 1/6
- SP
- 7/2C
- Btn
- won 1
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Bannock (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,914
- Days
- 22
- Future form
- 2/4
swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
Class 65fGood
All fields
- Date
- 8 Apr 11
- Course
- Newcastle
- Pos
- 3/5
- SP
- 3/1
- Btn
- ½
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Race
- swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Marford Missile (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,943
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/4
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Oct 11 | Ascot | Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes | 7/16 | Fanrouge (IRE) | 11 | 20 Apr 12 | Bath | Events Bar Management Handicap |
| 1 Jul 11 | Sandown | Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes | 1/6 | Kohala (IRE) | 2 | 12 Aug 11 | Newbury | Bathwick Tyres St Hugh's Stakes (Fillies) |
| 16 Jun 11 | Ascot | Norfolk Stakes | 7/15 | Charles The Great (IRE) | 10 | 16 Jul 11 | Newbury | Weatherbys Super Sprint |
| 16 Jun 11 | Ascot | Norfolk Stakes | 7/15 | Sans Loi (IRE) | 13 | 27 Jun 11 | Pontefract | Spindrifter Conditions Stakes |
| 13 May 11 | Newcastle | La Taxis Novice Stakes | 4/4 | Travis County (IRE) | 2 | 1 Jun 11 | Ripon | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes |
| 30 Apr 11 | Doncaster | Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes | 1/6 | Bannock (IRE) | 2 | 9 May 11 | Redcar | Buy Your Tickets On-Line @ redcarracing.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes |
| 30 Apr 11 | Doncaster | Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes | 1/6 | Misty Conquest (IRE) | 3 | 12 May 11 | Newmarket | Chassis Cab DAF Maiden Auction Stakes |
| 8 Apr 11 | Newcastle | swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes | 3/5 | Ortea (GB) | 4 | 23 Apr 11 | Nottingham | Calverts Carpets York Maiden Stakes |
- 7/161 Oct 11 · Ascot
Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 1 Oct 11
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes
- This horse
- 7/16
- Winner next time
- Fanrouge (IRE)
- Their pos
- 11
- Won on
- 20 Apr 12
- At
- Bath
- Race won
- Events Bar Management Handicap
- 1/61 Jul 11 · Sandown
Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jul 11
- Course
- Sandown
- Race
- Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes
- This horse
- 1/6
- Winner next time
- Kohala (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 12 Aug 11
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Bathwick Tyres St Hugh's Stakes (Fillies)
- 7/1516 Jun 11 · Ascot
Norfolk Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 16 Jun 11
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Norfolk Stakes
- This horse
- 7/15
- Winner next time
- Charles The Great (IRE)
- Their pos
- 10
- Won on
- 16 Jul 11
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Weatherbys Super Sprint
- 7/1516 Jun 11 · Ascot
Norfolk Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 16 Jun 11
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Norfolk Stakes
- This horse
- 7/15
- Winner next time
- Sans Loi (IRE)
- Their pos
- 13
- Won on
- 27 Jun 11
- Race won
- Spindrifter Conditions Stakes
- 4/413 May 11 · Newcastle
La Taxis Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 13 May 11
- Course
- Newcastle
- Race
- La Taxis Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 4/4
- Winner next time
- Travis County (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 1 Jun 11
- At
- Ripon
- Race won
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing E B F Maiden Stakes
- 1/630 Apr 11 · Doncaster
Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 30 Apr 11
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 1/6
- Winner next time
- Bannock (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 9 May 11
- At
- Redcar
- Race won
- Buy Your Tickets On-Line @ redcarracing.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- 1/630 Apr 11 · Doncaster
Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 30 Apr 11
- Course
- Doncaster
- Race
- Frenchgate Shopping Centre Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 1/6
- Winner next time
- Misty Conquest (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 12 May 11
- At
- Newmarket
- Race won
- Chassis Cab DAF Maiden Auction Stakes
- 3/58 Apr 11 · Newcastle
swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 8 Apr 11
- Course
- Newcastle
- Race
- swarlandselfstorage.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 3/5
- Winner next time
- Ortea (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 23 Apr 11
- Race won
- Calverts Carpets York Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Linda Stubbs | 8 Apr 11 | 1 Oct 11 | 3/5 | 97 | 97 | 97 | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
Linda Stubbs
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- First run
- 8 Apr 11
- Last run
- 1 Oct 11
- First run for yard
- 3/5
- OR first run
- 97
- OR last run
- 97
- Best OR
- 97
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 | 97 | 8 Apr 11 | 1 Oct 11 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 97
- First run
- 8 Apr 11
- Last run
- 1 Oct 11
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £3,155 | €0 | ||
| Good | 4 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £12,482 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,155
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ascot | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Newcastle | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £529 | €0 | ||
| Doncaster | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,914 | €0 | ||
| Sandown | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £12,193 | €0 | ||
| York | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Ascot
- Course
- Ascot
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newcastle
- Course
- Newcastle
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £529
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Doncaster
- Course
- Doncaster
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,914
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Sandown
- Course
- Sandown
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,193
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
York
- Course
- York
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Group 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Group 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Listed | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £12,193 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,914 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £289 | €0 |
Group 2
- Class
- Group 2
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Group 3
- Class
- Group 3
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Listed
- Class
- Listed
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,193
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,914
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £15,107 | €0 | ||
| 2 to 5 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £529 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,107
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £529
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 2 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £3,203 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £12,193 | €0 | ||
| August | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,203
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,193
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Kieren Fallon | 5 | 1 | 0 | 1 | £12,482 | €0 | ||
| Tom Eaves | 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £2,914 | €0 | ||
| Paul Mulrennan | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 |
Kieren Fallon
- Jockey
- Kieren Fallon
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,482
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tom Eaves
- Jockey
- Tom Eaves
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £2,914
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Paul Mulrennan
- Jockey
- Paul Mulrennan
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Linda Stubbs | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
Linda Stubbs
- Trainer
- Linda Stubbs
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 7 | 2 | 0 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £289 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £15,107 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,107
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchVerglas (IRE)
Parent · 1
- SireVerglas (IRE)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireHighest Honor (FR)
- Sire's damRahaam (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchHankering (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireMissed Flight (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Hankering (IRE) · 3 winners from 4 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Verglas (IRE) | Hankering (IRE) | Missed Flight (GB) | gelding | Flat 8.1f · NH 2m1f | Flat 6.2f · NH 2m3f |
Verglas (IRE)
- Sire
- Verglas (IRE)
- Damsire
- Missed Flight (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.1f · NH 2m1f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.2f · NH 2m3f
Progeny of Verglas (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 4,714 | 480 | 1,277 | 7 | 2 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 1,336 | 146 | 355 | 7 | 2 | ||
| On Good going | 1,034 | 105 | 287 | 4 | 1 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on Good going | 331 | 34 | 84 | 4 | 1 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 4,714
- Wins
- 480
- Placed
- 1,277
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 7
- This horse wins
- 2
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 1,336
- Wins
- 146
- Placed
- 355
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 7
- This horse wins
- 2
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 1,034
- Wins
- 105
- Placed
- 287
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 1
At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Runs
- 331
- Wins
- 34
- Placed
- 84
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Verglas (IRE) × Missed Flight mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 1 | 1 | 7 | 2 | 1 | £15,636 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 1
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Forevertheoptimist (IRE) | 7 | 2 | 1 | Listed | £15,636 | €0 |
Forevertheoptimist (IRE)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,636
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 97 | 97 | 97 | 2 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 97
- Highest OR
- 97
- Lowest OR
- 97
- Rated runs
- 2
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 97 | 97 | 0 | 97 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 97
- OR last run
- 97
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 97
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 4 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Verglas (IRE) out of Hankering (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Casamento (IRE)
- Magwadiri (IRE)4W · 32R
By Alhebayeb (IRE)
- Stay Thinking (IRE)0W · 9R
By Fulbright (GB)
- Smiling Sunflower (IRE)3W · 26R
Female line
- 1Hankering (IRE)
Notable relatives
Forevertheoptimist is the only black-type winner in this female family in Britain or Ireland since 1990.
In brief
When was Forevertheoptimist foaled?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) was foaled in 2009.
Who are the sire and dam of Forevertheoptimist?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) is by Verglas (IRE) out of Hankering (IRE), a daughter of Missed Flight (GB).
Who trained Forevertheoptimist?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) was trained by Linda Stubbs and owned by G T Bloodstock at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Forevertheoptimist's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Forevertheoptimist (IRE) won 2 of 7 races (29%). Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.
What is Forevertheoptimist's biggest win?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE)'s biggest win in Britain or Ireland came in the Bank of New York Mellon Dragon Stakes (Listed) at Sandown on 1 July 2011.
Has Forevertheoptimist ever been beaten?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) was beaten 5 times in 7 runs in Britain and Ireland, the first time on 8 April 2011 at Newcastle (3rd of 5).
What was Forevertheoptimist's official rating?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) was last officially rated 97 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Forevertheoptimist still racing?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 October 2011 at Ascot in the Jaguar XJ Cornwallis Stakes, finishing 7th of 16, and has not run there since.
What is Forevertheoptimist's record at Ascot?
Forevertheoptimist (IRE) ran most often at Ascot, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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