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Horse profile
Discern
- TrainerJames Fanshawe
- OwnerCheveley Park Stud
- FamilyTroyes
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 2009
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 19 Nov 2011, Wolverhampton (AW) (9/13)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Nov 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 9/13 | 33/1 | 19 | Jamie Spencer | James Fanshawe | EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I) | Class 5 | Flat AW | 1m½f | Standard | 8-12 | Prince Alzain (USA) | £3,235 | 9 | 4/12 |
| 10 Nov 11 | Kempton (AW) | 10/12 | 33/1 | 12 | Martin Lane | James Fanshawe | Blue Square/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II) | Class 5 | Flat AW | 1m | Standard | 9-0 | Tumooh (IRE) | £2,846 | - | 0/10 |
- 9/1319 Nov 11 · Wolverhampton (AW)33/1
EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
Class 51m½fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 11
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 9/13
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 19
- Jockey
- Jamie Spencer
- Trainer
- James Fanshawe
- Race
- EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m½f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 8-12
- Winner / 2nd
- Prince Alzain (USA)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- 9
- Future form
- 4/12
- 10/1210 Nov 11 · Kempton (AW)33/1
Blue Square/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
Class 51mStandard
All fields
- Date
- 10 Nov 11
- Course
- Kempton (AW)
- Pos
- 10/12
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 12
- Jockey
- Martin Lane
- Trainer
- James Fanshawe
- Race
- Blue Square/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Fillies' Stakes (Div II)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Tumooh (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,846
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 19 Nov 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I) | 9/13 | Prince Alzain (USA) | 1 | 26 Dec 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Boxing Day Novice Stakes |
| 19 Nov 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I) | 9/13 | California English (IRE) | 2 | 14 Dec 11 | Kempton (AW) | Betdaq Multiples/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes |
| 19 Nov 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I) | 9/13 | Sparkling Portrait (GB) | 3 | 10 Dec 11 | Southwell (AW) | E B F Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes |
| 19 Nov 11 | Wolverhampton (AW) | EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I) | 9/13 | Watheeq (USA) | 4 | 25 May 12 | Haydock | PHS Washroom Services Handicap |
- 9/1319 Nov 11 · Wolverhampton (AW)
EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 11
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/13
- Winner next time
- Prince Alzain (USA)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 26 Dec 11
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Boxing Day Novice Stakes
- 9/1319 Nov 11 · Wolverhampton (AW)
EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 11
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/13
- Winner next time
- California English (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 14 Dec 11
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- Betdaq Multiples/British Stallion Studs EBF Maiden Stakes
- 9/1319 Nov 11 · Wolverhampton (AW)
EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 11
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/13
- Winner next time
- Sparkling Portrait (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 10 Dec 11
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- E B F Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes
- 9/1319 Nov 11 · Wolverhampton (AW)
EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 19 Nov 11
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 9/13
- Winner next time
- Watheeq (USA)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 25 May 12
- At
- Haydock
- Race won
- PHS Washroom Services Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| James Fanshawe | 10 Nov 11 | 19 Nov 11 | 10/12 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
James Fanshawe
- Trainer
- James Fanshawe
- First run
- 10 Nov 11
- Last run
- 19 Nov 11
- First run for yard
- 10/12
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 10 Nov 11 | 19 Nov 11 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 10 Nov 11
- Last run
- 19 Nov 11
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchMedicean (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireMedicean (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireMachiavellian (USA)
- Sire's damMystic Goddess (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDiscerning (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireDarshaan (GB)
- Dam's damTromond (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireLomond (USA)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Discerning (GB) · by Darshaan (GB) · 3 winners from 6 runners
- Tromond (GB) · by Lomond (USA) · 8 winners from 8 runners · Black-type placed
- Troyes (GB) · 4 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Medicean (GB) | Discerning (GB) | Darshaan (GB) | filly | Flat 8.9f · NH 2m2f | Flat 9.8f · NH 2m2f |
Medicean (GB)
- Sire
- Medicean (GB)
- Damsire
- Darshaan (GB)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.9f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.8f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Medicean (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 7,765 | 807 | 2,152 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m | 3,025 | 320 | 822 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 2,784 | 313 | 799 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m on AW going | 1,167 | 141 | 347 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 7,765
- Wins
- 807
- Placed
- 2,152
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 3,025
- Wins
- 320
- Placed
- 822
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 2,784
- Wins
- 313
- Placed
- 799
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m on AW going
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m on AW going
- Runs
- 1,167
- Wins
- 141
- Placed
- 347
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Medicean (GB) × Darshaan mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 8 | 5 | 0 | 69 | 8 | 22 | £53,963 | €5,400 | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 1 | 0 | 8 | 3 | 3 | £16,370 | €0 | ||
| All runs | 8 | 5 | 0 | 77 | 11 | 25 | £70,333 | €5,400 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 8
- Winners
- 5
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 69
- Wins
- 8
- 2nd/3rd
- 22
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £53,963
- Prize IRE (€)
- €5,400
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd/3rd
- 3
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £16,370
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 8
- Winners
- 5
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 77
- Wins
- 11
- 2nd/3rd
- 25
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £70,333
- Prize IRE (€)
- €5,400
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Zed Candy (FR) | 36 | 7 | 0 | £30,877 | €0 |
| Florentine Ruler (USA) | 4 | 1 | 0 | £4,117 | €0 |
| Vivacita (GB) | 5 | 1 | 0 | £3,791 | €0 |
| Phillipina (GB) | 7 | 1 | 0 | £16,247 | €0 |
| Mustamir (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 0 | £6,442 | €0 |
| Discern (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Bayrir (FR) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £3,478 | €5,400 |
| Vizean (IRE) | 12 | 0 | 0 | £5,381 | €0 |
Zed Candy (FR)
- Horse
- Zed Candy (FR)
- Runs
- 36
- Wins
- 7
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £30,877
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Florentine Ruler (USA)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,117
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Vivacita (GB)
- Horse
- Vivacita (GB)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,791
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Phillipina (GB)
- Horse
- Phillipina (GB)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £16,247
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mustamir (IRE)
- Horse
- Mustamir (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £6,442
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Discern (GB)
- Horse
- Discern (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Bayrir (FR)
- Horse
- Bayrir (FR)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,478
- Prize IRE (€)
- €5,400
Vizean (IRE)
- Horse
- Vizean (IRE)
- Runs
- 12
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,381
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
- Phillipina (GB)1W · 7R
Half siblings
By Hernando (FR)
- Star Of Pompey (GB)1W · 17R
By Carnival Dancer (GB)
- Perceptive (GB)0W · 3R
By Authorized (IRE)
- Permitted (GB)0W · 5R
By Rip Van Winkle (IRE)
- Purple Magic (GB)4W · 8R
Female line
- 1Discerning (GB) · by Darshaan (GB)
- 2Tromond (GB) · by Lomond (USA)
- 3Troyes (GB)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Cesare (GB)10W · 30R · 3 black-type
- Personal Column (GB)4W · 22R · 1 black-type
Great-aunt (out of 3rd dam)
- Mont Etoile (IRE)2W · 13R · 1 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Keystroke (GB)7W · 25R · 1 black-type
Aunt (out of 2nd dam)
- Embraced (GB)2W · 4R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Discern foaled?
Discern (GB) was foaled in 2009.
Who are the sire and dam of Discern?
Discern (GB) is by Medicean (GB) out of Discerning (GB), a daughter of Darshaan (GB).
Who trained Discern?
Discern (GB) was trained by James Fanshawe and owned by Cheveley Park Stud at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Discern's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Discern (GB) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Discern still racing?
Discern (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 November 2011 at Wolverhampton (AW) in the EBF Mirror Punters Club Maiden Stakes, finishing 9th of 13, and has not run there since.
Is Discern related to any top horses?
Discern (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Cesare (GB) (uncle, Group 2 winner), Personal Column (GB) (uncle, Grade 2 winner) and Mont Etoile (IRE) (great-aunt, Group 2 winner), from the Troyes (GB) family.
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