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Classical Dilemma (GB) silks

Horse profile

Classical Dilemma

Sex
filly
Foaled
2005
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
15 Dec 2009, Catterick (UR/16)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
8UR

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
15 Dec 09CatterickUR/16100/1-Andrew TinklerJames GivenBook Racecourse Hospitality On 01748 810165 Intermediate Open National Hunt F…Class 5NH Flat1m7½fGood to Soft10-11Fairynuff (GB)£1,953300/14
15 Nov 09Market Rasen8/1025/119½Lee VickersJames GivenPHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat RaceClass 6NH Flat2m½fSoft10-9Pyracantha (GB)£1,713-2/9
  • UR/1615 Dec 09 · Catterick100/1

    Book Racecourse Hospitality On 01748 810165 Intermediate Open National Hunt F…

    Class 51m7½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    15 Dec 09
    Course
    Catterick
    Pos
    UR/16
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    -
    Race
    Book Racecourse Hospitality On 01748 810165 Intermediate Open National Hunt F…
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    1m7½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-11
    Winner / 2nd
    Fairynuff (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,953
    Days
    30
    Future form
    0/14
  • 8/1015 Nov 09 · Market Rasen25/1

    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    Class 62m½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    15 Nov 09
    Pos
    8/10
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    19½
    Race
    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-9
    Winner / 2nd
    Pyracantha (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,713
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/9

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
15 Nov 09Market RasenPHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race8/10Full Of Joy (IRE)25 Dec 09Chepstowfreebets.co.uk Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
15 Nov 09Market RasenPHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race8/10Dear Sam (GER)42 Dec 09CatterickGo Racing At Wetherby This Saturday Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
  • 8/1015 Nov 09 · Market Rasen

    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    15 Nov 09
    Race
    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    This horse
    8/10
    Winner next time
    Full Of Joy (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    5 Dec 09
    Race won
    freebets.co.uk Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
  • 8/1015 Nov 09 · Market Rasen

    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race

    All fields
    Date
    15 Nov 09
    Race
    PHS Treadsmart Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
    This horse
    8/10
    Winner next time
    Dear Sam (GER)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    2 Dec 09
    Race won
    Go Racing At Wetherby This Saturday Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
James Given15 Nov 0915 Dec 098/1020000.0%0.0%£0€0
James Given
First run
15 Nov 09
Last run
15 Dec 09
First run for yard
8/10
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€015 Nov 0915 Dec 09
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
15 Nov 09
Last run
15 Dec 09

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchClassic Cliche (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireClassic Cliche (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireSalse (USA)
  2. Sire's damPato (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchSatiric (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamSatiric (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireDoyoun (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseClassical Dilemma (GB)
Sexfilly
Foaled2005
SireClassic Cliche (IRE)
DamSatiric (IRE)
DamsireDoyoun (GB)
Sire's sireSalse (USA)
Sire's damPato (GB)
Dam's produce0 winners from 6 runners
Notable siblingSticiboots (GB)

Female line

  1. Satiric (IRE) · 0 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Classic Cliche (IRE)Satiric (IRE)Doyoun (GB)fillyFlat 11.4f · NH 2m4½fFlat 9.8f · NH 2m2½f
Classic Cliche (IRE)
Sex
filly
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.4f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.8f · NH 2m2½f

Progeny of Classic Cliche (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs3,3482618247.8%24.6%20
At 2m to 2m1f988712017.2%20.3%20
On Good to soft or yielding going705461606.5%22.7%10
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going20013326.5%16.0%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
3,348
Wins
261
Placed
824
Win %
7.8%
Place %
24.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
988
Wins
71
Placed
201
Win %
7.2%
Place %
20.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
705
Wins
46
Placed
160
Win %
6.5%
Place %
22.7%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
200
Wins
13
Placed
32
Win %
6.5%
Place %
16.0%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Classic Cliche (IRE) × Doyoun mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt2150.0%0182311.1%£11,002€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
2
Winners
1
Winners %
50.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
18
Wins
2
2nd/3rd
3
Win %
11.1%
Prize GB (£)
£11,002
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
My Pal Val (IRE)1620£11,002€0
Classical Dilemma (GB)200£0€0
My Pal Val (IRE)
Runs
16
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£11,002
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Classical Dilemma (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Satiric (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 6 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Classic Cliche (IRE) out of Satiric (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Batshoof (GB)

By King's Theatre (IRE)

By Tomba (GB)

By Golden Snake (USA)

Female line

  1. 1Satiric (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Classical Dilemma foaled?

Classical Dilemma (GB) was foaled in 2005.

Who are the sire and dam of Classical Dilemma?

Classical Dilemma (GB) is by Classic Cliche (IRE) out of Satiric (IRE), a daughter of Doyoun (GB).

Who trained Classical Dilemma?

Classical Dilemma (GB) was trained by James Given and owned by P J Brain at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Classical Dilemma's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Classical Dilemma (GB) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Classical Dilemma still racing?

Classical Dilemma (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 15 December 2009 at Catterick in the Book Racecourse Hospitality On 01748 810165 Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race (result: unseated rider, 16 ran), and has not run there since.

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