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Horse profile

Afterthought (NZ)

Sex
gelding
Foaled
1985

See also: Afterthought (GB) · Henry Spiller · 1 run · 0 wins

Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
12 Oct 1991, Worcester (PU/20)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
64PUPU

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
12 Oct 91WorcesterPU/2066/1-S EarleA BarrowSir Ken Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m2fGood10-12Sweet Duke (FR)£1,94072/18
5 Oct 91ChepstowPU/1220/1-W IrvineA BarrowLodge Novices' HurdleNon-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m3½fGood to Firm11-2Miss Bobby Bennett (GB)£1,6183321/8
7 Nov 90Newbury4/1214/120¼R DunwoodyNicky HendersonWood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)Non-handicap (unclassified)Hurdle2m½fGood to Firm11-0Book Of Gold (GB)£2,5532423/10
10 Mar 90Sandown6/1711/219R MilnerNicky HendersonFlyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)Non-handicap (unclassified)NH Flat2mGood to Firm11-1Captain Dibble (GB)£1,360-1/13
  • PU/2012 Oct 91 · Worcester66/1

    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m2fGood

    All fields
    Date
    12 Oct 91
    Course
    Worcester
    Pos
    PU/20
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    S Earle
    Trainer
    A Barrow
    Race
    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m2f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-12
    Winner / 2nd
    Sweet Duke (FR)
    Winner prize
    £1,940
    Days
    7
    Future form
    2/18
  • PU/125 Oct 91 · Chepstow20/1

    Lodge Novices' Hurdle

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3½fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    5 Oct 91
    Course
    Chepstow
    Pos
    PU/12
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    W Irvine
    Trainer
    A Barrow
    Race
    Lodge Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m3½f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-2
    Winner prize
    £1,618
    Days
    332
    Future form
    1/8
  • 4/127 Nov 90 · Newbury14/1

    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2m½fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    7 Nov 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Pos
    4/12
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    20¼
    Race
    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-0
    Winner / 2nd
    Book Of Gold (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,553
    Days
    242
    Future form
    3/10
  • 6/1710 Mar 90 · Sandown11/2

    Flyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Pos
    6/17
    SP
    11/2
    Btn
    19
    Jockey
    R Milner
    Race
    Flyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    11-1
    Winner prize
    £1,360
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/13

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
12 Oct 91WorcesterSir Ken Novices' HurdlePU/20Ask Frank (GB)32 Nov 91ChepstowStayers Novices' Hurdle
12 Oct 91WorcesterSir Ken Novices' HurdlePU/20Vital Witness (CAN)926 Dec 91HuntingdonSt Ivo Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
5 Oct 91ChepstowLodge Novices' HurdlePU/12Side Of Hill (GB)328 Dec 92ChepstowChristmas Cracker Handicap Chase
7 Nov 90NewburyWood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)4/12Book Of Gold (GB)130 Nov 90SandownMarten Julian 'national Hunt Guide' Novices' Hurdle
7 Nov 90NewburyWood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)4/12Young Pokey (GB)224 Nov 90NewburySpeen Novices' Hurdle
7 Nov 90NewburyWood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)4/12New Duds (USA)312 Jan 91AscotDurham Ranger Novices' Hurdle
10 Mar 90SandownFlyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)6/17Captain Dibble (GB)16 Oct 90WorcesterInkberrow Novices' Hurdle
  • PU/2012 Oct 91 · Worcester

    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    12 Oct 91
    Course
    Worcester
    Race
    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    PU/20
    Winner next time
    Ask Frank (GB)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    2 Nov 91
    Race won
    Stayers Novices' Hurdle
  • PU/2012 Oct 91 · Worcester

    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    12 Oct 91
    Course
    Worcester
    Race
    Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    PU/20
    Winner next time
    Vital Witness (CAN)
    Their pos
    9
    Won on
    26 Dec 91
    Race won
    St Ivo Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
  • PU/125 Oct 91 · Chepstow

    Lodge Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    5 Oct 91
    Course
    Chepstow
    Race
    Lodge Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    PU/12
    Winner next time
    Side Of Hill (GB)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    28 Dec 92
    Race won
    Christmas Cracker Handicap Chase
  • 4/127 Nov 90 · Newbury

    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    7 Nov 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Race
    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
    This horse
    4/12
    Winner next time
    Book Of Gold (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    30 Nov 90
    Race won
    Marten Julian 'national Hunt Guide' Novices' Hurdle
  • 4/127 Nov 90 · Newbury

    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    7 Nov 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Race
    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
    This horse
    4/12
    Winner next time
    Young Pokey (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    24 Nov 90
    Race won
    Speen Novices' Hurdle
  • 4/127 Nov 90 · Newbury

    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    7 Nov 90
    Course
    Newbury
    Race
    Wood Speen Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
    This horse
    4/12
    Winner next time
    New Duds (USA)
    Their pos
    3
    Won on
    12 Jan 91
    Race won
    Durham Ranger Novices' Hurdle
  • 6/1710 Mar 90 · Sandown

    Flyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    10 Mar 90
    Course
    Sandown
    Race
    Flyers National Hunt Flat (Div II)
    This horse
    6/17
    Winner next time
    Captain Dibble (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    6 Oct 90
    Race won
    Inkberrow Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
A BarrowNicky Henderson5 Oct 9112 Oct 91PU/1220000.0%0.0%£0€0
Nicky Henderson-10 Mar 907 Nov 906/1720000.0%0.0%£0€0
A Barrow
Trainer
A Barrow
Moved from
Nicky Henderson
First run
5 Oct 91
Last run
12 Oct 91
First run for yard
PU/12
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Nicky Henderson
First run
10 Mar 90
Last run
7 Nov 90
First run for yard
6/17
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt40000.0%0.0%£0€010 Mar 9012 Oct 91
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
10 Mar 90
Last run
12 Oct 91

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle30000.0%0.0%£0€0
NH Flat10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
NH Flat
Race type
NH Flat
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm30000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m2f to 2m5f20000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Chepstow10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Newbury10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sandown10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Worcester10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Chepstow
Course
Chepstow
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Newbury
Course
Newbury
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sandown
Course
Sandown
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Worcester
Course
Worcester
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)40000.0%0.0%£0€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
17+ runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
March10000.0%0.0%£0€0
October20000.0%0.0%£0€0
November10000.0%0.0%£0€0
March
Month
March
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
R Dunwoody10000.0%0.0%£0€0
R Milner10000.0%0.0%£0€0
S Earle10000.0%0.0%£0€0
W Irvine10000.0%0.0%£0€0
R Dunwoody
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
R Milner
Jockey
R Milner
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
S Earle
Jockey
S Earle
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
W Irvine
Jockey
W Irvine
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
A Barrow20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Nicky Henderson20000.0%0.0%£0€0
A Barrow
Trainer
A Barrow
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Nicky Henderson
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40000.0%0.0%£0€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
1 to 7 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
121 to 365 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
1 to 7 days
Days since last run
1 to 7 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchPrince Simbir (NZ)

Parent · 1

  1. SirePrince Simbir (NZ)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTwo Lettres (NZ)

Parent · 1

  1. DamTwo Lettres (NZ)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireAureate
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Aureate
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseAfterthought (NZ)
Sexgelding
Foaled1985
SirePrince Simbir (NZ)
DamTwo Lettres (NZ)
DamsireAureate
Dam's produce0 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingGreat Orme (NZ)

Female line

  1. Two Lettres (NZ) · 0 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Prince Simbir (NZ)
Damsire
Aureate
Sex
gelding

Progeny of Prince Simbir (NZ) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs15000.0%0.0%40
At 2m to 2m1f10000.0%0.0%20
On Good to firm or firmer going6000.0%0.0%30
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going4000.0%0.0%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
15
Wins
0
Placed
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
10
Wins
0
Placed
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
On Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
6
Wins
0
Placed
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
4
Wins
0
Placed
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Prince Simbir (NZ) × Aureate mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%04000.0%£0€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Afterthought (NZ)400£0€0
Afterthought (NZ)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Two Lettres (NZ)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Prince Simbir (NZ) out of Two Lettres (NZ) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Captain Jason (NZ)

Female line

  1. 1Two Lettres (NZ)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Afterthought foaled?

Afterthought (NZ) was foaled in 1985.

Who are the sire and dam of Afterthought?

Afterthought (NZ) is by Prince Simbir (NZ) out of Two Lettres (NZ), a daughter of Aureate.

Who trained Afterthought?

Afterthought (NZ) was trained by A Barrow and owned by P C Lloyd at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Nicky Henderson.

What is Afterthought's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Afterthought (NZ) ran 4 times without winning.

Is Afterthought still racing?

Afterthought (NZ) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 12 October 1991 at Worcester in the Sir Ken Novices' Hurdle (result: pulled up, 20 ran), and has not run there since.

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