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Horse profile
You Never Know
- TrainerClaire Dyson
- OwnerB S Vaughan Partner
- FamilySilojoka
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2011
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £143 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 15 Dec 2017, Bangor-on-Dee (4/4)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 15 Dec 17 | Bangor-on-Dee | 4/4 | 20/1 | dist | Charlie Deutsch | Claire Dyson | Tents & Events Marquee Hire Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m½f | Heavy | 10-4 | Passam (GB) | £1,949 | 0/3 |
Tents & Events Marquee Hire Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
Class 62m½fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 15 Dec 17
- Course
- Bangor-on-Dee
- Pos
- 4/4
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Charlie Deutsch
- Trainer
- Claire Dyson
- Race
- Tents & Events Marquee Hire Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-4
- Winner / 2nd
- Passam (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,949
- Future form
- 0/3
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Claire Dyson | 15 Dec 17 | 15 Dec 17 | 4/4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £143 | €0 |
Claire Dyson
- Trainer
- Claire Dyson
- First run
- 15 Dec 17
- Last run
- 15 Dec 17
- First run for yard
- 4/4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £143
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £143 | €0 | 15 Dec 17 | 15 Dec 17 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £143
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 15 Dec 17
- Last run
- 15 Dec 17
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchApple Tree (FR)
Parent · 1
- SireApple Tree (FR)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireBikala (GB)
- Sire's damPomme Rose (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCapricorn Princess (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireNicholas Bill (GB)
- Dam's damYamrah (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireMilford (GB)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Capricorn Princess (GB) · by Nicholas Bill (GB) · 0 winners from 2 runners
- Yamrah (GB) · by Milford (GB) · 4 winners from 6 runners
- Silojoka (GB) · 3 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Apple Tree (FR) | Capricorn Princess (GB) | Nicholas Bill (GB) | mare | Flat 9.0f · NH 2m4½f | Flat 9.4f · NH 2m3f |
Apple Tree (FR)
- Sire
- Apple Tree (FR)
- Damsire
- Nicholas Bill (GB)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.0f · NH 2m4½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.4f · NH 2m3f
Progeny of Apple Tree (FR) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 687 | 60 | 162 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 175 | 11 | 25 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Heavy going | 80 | 4 | 13 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going | 23 | 0 | 2 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 687
- Wins
- 60
- Placed
- 162
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 175
- Wins
- 11
- Placed
- 25
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 80
- Wins
- 4
- Placed
- 13
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 23
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Apple Tree (FR) × Nicholas Bill mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £143 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £143
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| You Never Know (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £143 | €0 |
You Never Know (GB)
- Horse
- You Never Know (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £143
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 2 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Apple Tree (FR) out of Capricorn Princess (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Deploy (GB)
- Alfie Moone (GB)0W · 3R
Female line
- 1Capricorn Princess (GB) · by Nicholas Bill (GB)
- 2Yamrah (GB) · by Milford (GB)
- 3Silojoka (GB)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Midnight Chase (GB)12W · 30R · 2 black-type
First cousin
- Carole's Destrier (GB)8W · 36R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was You Never Know foaled?
You Never Know (GB) was foaled in 2011.
Who are the sire and dam of You Never Know?
You Never Know (GB) is by Apple Tree (FR) out of Capricorn Princess (GB), a daughter of Nicholas Bill (GB).
Who trained You Never Know?
You Never Know (GB) was trained by Claire Dyson and owned by B S Vaughan Partner at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is You Never Know's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, You Never Know (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
Is You Never Know still racing?
You Never Know (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 15 December 2017 at Bangor-on-Dee in the Tents & Events Marquee Hire Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race, finishing 4th of 4, and has not run there since.
Is You Never Know related to any top horses?
You Never Know (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Midnight Chase (GB) (uncle, Grade 3 winner) and Carole's Destrier (GB) (first cousin, Listed winner), from the Silojoka (GB) family.
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