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Horse profile
Winter War
- TrainerArchie Watson
- OwnerQatar Racing
- FamilyLa Papagena
- Sex
- colt
- Foaled
- 2021
- Colour
- bay
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 27 Jan 2024, Newcastle (AW) (5/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | 5/12 | 25/1 | 4 | Luke Morris | Archie Watson | Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-0 | Pocklington (GB) | £3,942 | 21 | 3/8 |
| 6 Jan 24 | Southwell (AW) | 5/8 | 13/2 | 5½ | Hollie Doyle | Archie Watson | BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I) | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-7 | Cuban Tiger (GB) | £3,942 | - | 2/6 |
- 5/1227 Jan 24 · Newcastle (AW)25/1
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Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 27 Jan 24
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Pos
- 5/12
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 4
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Archie Watson
- Race
- Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Pocklington (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,942
- Days
- 21
- Future form
- 3/8
- 5/86 Jan 24 · Southwell (AW)13/2
BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 6 Jan 24
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Pos
- 5/8
- SP
- 13/2
- Btn
- 5½
- Jockey
- Hollie Doyle
- Trainer
- Archie Watson
- Race
- BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-7
- Winner / 2nd
- Cuban Tiger (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,942
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 27 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes | 5/12 | Pocklington (GB) | 1 | 3 Mar 24 | Newcastle (AW) | BetUK. It's Where The UK Bets Novice Stakes |
| 27 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes | 5/12 | Quiet Resolve (IRE) | 3 | 13 Feb 24 | Newcastle (AW) | Stay Golden With BetMGM Safer Gambling Maiden Stakes |
| 27 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes | 5/12 | Sunblock (GB) | 8 | 2 Mar 24 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Win £2,000 000 With BetMGM's Golden Goals Handicap |
| 6 Jan 24 | Southwell (AW) | BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I) | 5/8 | Call To Action (IRE) | 2 | 25 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | Build Your Acca With BetUK Maiden Stakes |
| 6 Jan 24 | Southwell (AW) | BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I) | 5/8 | Alfa Kellenic (GB) | 4 | 17 Jan 24 | Newcastle (AW) | BetUK. It's Where The UK Bets Restricted Maiden Stakes |
- 5/1227 Jan 24 · Newcastle (AW)
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All fields
- Date
- 27 Jan 24
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race
- Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 5/12
- Winner next time
- Pocklington (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 3 Mar 24
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- BetUK. It's Where The UK Bets Novice Stakes
- 5/1227 Jan 24 · Newcastle (AW)
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All fields
- Date
- 27 Jan 24
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race
- Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 5/12
- Winner next time
- Quiet Resolve (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 13 Feb 24
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Stay Golden With BetMGM Safer Gambling Maiden Stakes
- 5/1227 Jan 24 · Newcastle (AW)
Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 27 Jan 24
- Course
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race
- Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes
- This horse
- 5/12
- Winner next time
- Sunblock (GB)
- Their pos
- 8
- Won on
- 2 Mar 24
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Win £2,000 000 With BetMGM's Golden Goals Handicap
- 5/86 Jan 24 · Southwell (AW)
BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 6 Jan 24
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Race
- BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 5/8
- Winner next time
- Call To Action (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 25 Jan 24
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Build Your Acca With BetUK Maiden Stakes
- 5/86 Jan 24 · Southwell (AW)
BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 6 Jan 24
- Course
- Southwell (AW)
- Race
- BetMGM: It's Showtime Novice Stakes (Div I)
- This horse
- 5/8
- Winner next time
- Alfa Kellenic (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 17 Jan 24
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- BetUK. It's Where The UK Bets Restricted Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Archie Watson | 6 Jan 24 | 27 Jan 24 | 5/8 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Archie Watson
- Trainer
- Archie Watson
- First run
- 6 Jan 24
- Last run
- 27 Jan 24
- First run for yard
- 5/8
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 6 Jan 24 | 27 Jan 24 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 6 Jan 24
- Last run
- 27 Jan 24
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNo Nay Never (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireScat Daddy (USA)
- Sire's damCat's Eye Witness (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDowager (GB)
Parent · 1
- DamDowager (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireGroom Dancer (USA)
- Dam's damRose Noble (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireVaguely Noble (IRE)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Dowager (GB) · by Groom Dancer (USA) · 6 winners from 9 runners · Listed winner
- Rose Noble (USA) · by Vaguely Noble (IRE) · 3 winners from 7 runners
- La Papagena (GB) · 7 winners from 12 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No Nay Never (USA) | Dowager (GB) | Groom Dancer (USA) | Lynch Bages & Rhinestone B/Stock | 10 Jan 21 | bay | colt | Flat 6.9f · NH 2m | Flat 8.9f · NH 2m2½f |
No Nay Never (USA)
- Dam
- Dowager (GB)
- Damsire
- Groom Dancer (USA)
- Breeder
- Lynch Bages & Rhinestone B/Stock
- Foaled
- 10 Jan 21
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- colt
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.9f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.9f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of No Nay Never (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 5,484 | 669 | 1,671 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 2,433 | 332 | 801 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 1,893 | 221 | 564 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 708 | 89 | 230 | 2 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 5,484
- Wins
- 669
- Placed
- 1,671
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 2,433
- Wins
- 332
- Placed
- 801
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,893
- Wins
- 221
- Placed
- 564
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 708
- Wins
- 89
- Placed
- 230
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
No Nay Never (USA) × Groom Dancer (USA) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 3 | 2 | 0 | 14 | 2 | 0 | £0 | €17,120 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 3
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 14
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €17,120
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nevereversaynever (IRE) | 4 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €9,410 |
| Never Cry Never (IRE) | 8 | 1 | 0 | £0 | €7,710 |
| Winter War (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Nevereversaynever (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €9,410
Never Cry Never (IRE)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €7,710
Winter War (IRE)
- Horse
- Winter War (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- Record
- Listed winner
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 6 winners from 9 runners
Full siblings
- Nevereversaynever (IRE)1W · 4R
- Never Cry Never (IRE)1W · 8R
Half siblings
By Duke Of Marmalade (IRE)
- Mrs Gorsky (GB)0W · 8R
- Nobel Duke (IRE)0W · 6R
By Showcasing (GB)
- La Cuesta (IRE)1W · 11R
By Declaration Of War (USA)
- Full Moon (IRE)2W · 14R
By Camelot (GB)
- Chiricahua (IRE)4W · 23R
- Gotomylovely (IRE)2W · 9R
Female line
- 1Dowager (GB) · by Groom Dancer (USA)
- 2Rose Noble (USA) · by Vaguely Noble (IRE)
- 3La Papagena (GB)
Notable relatives
Great-uncle (out of 3rd dam)
- Grand Lodge (USA)4W · 12R · 2 G1
Dam
- Dowager (GB)3W · 17R · 1 black-type
Great-aunt (out of 3rd dam)
- La Persiana (GB)5W · 16R · 2 black-type
- Papabile (USA)3W · 9R · 2 black-type
Second cousin
- Phantom Flight (GB)5W · 21R · 2 black-type
In brief
How old is Winter War?
Winter War (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 10 January 2021 and is 5 years old.
Who are the sire and dam of Winter War?
Winter War (IRE) is by No Nay Never (USA) out of Dowager (GB), a daughter of Groom Dancer (USA), and was bred by Lynch Bages & Rhinestone B/Stock.
Who trained Winter War?
Winter War (IRE) was trained by Archie Watson and owned by Qatar Racing Limited at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Winter War's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Winter War (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Winter War still racing?
Winter War (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 27 January 2024 at Newcastle (AW) in the Always Gamble Responsibly With BetUK Novice Stakes, finishing 5th of 12, and has not run there since.
Is Winter War related to any top horses?
Winter War (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Dowager (GB) (dam, Listed winner), Grand Lodge (USA) (great-uncle, Group 1 winner) and La Persiana (GB) (great-aunt, Listed winner), from the La Papagena (GB) family.
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