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Horse profile

Whateveryousay

Flemensfirth (USA) × Ute Antique (FR) (Robin Des Pres (FR))

Sex: gelding
Foaled: 2017
Colour: bay

Record (GB & IRE): 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE): £898 GB
Last run (GB & IRE): 13 May 2023, Hexham (3/9)
Last win (GB & IRE): Never won

Recent form

Form

Race record

Date	Course	Pos	SP	Btn	Jockey	Trainer	Race	Class	Type	Dist	Going	Wgt	Winner / 2nd	Winner prize	Future form
13 May 23	Hexham	3/9	25/1	23½	Mr Philip Lawrence	R Wilkinson	Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…	Class 4	Chase	3m	Good to Soft	11-10	Matts Commission (IRE)	£3,593	1/6

3/913 May 23 · Hexham25/1
Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…
Class 43mGood to Soft
All fields
Date
13 May 23
Course
Hexham
Pos
3/9
SP
25/1
Btn
23½
Jockey
Mr Philip Lawrence
Trainer
R Wilkinson
Race
Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…
Class
Class 4
Type
Chase
Dist
3m
Going
Good to Soft
Wgt
11-10
Winner / 2nd
Matts Commission (IRE)
Winner prize
£3,593
Future form
1/6

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Date	Course	Race	This horse	Winner next time	Their pos	Won on	At	Race won
13 May 23	Hexham	Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…	3/9	Cullin Hills (GB)	2	14 Apr 25	Hexham	Pointing Pointers Open Hunters' Chase

3/913 May 23 · Hexham
Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…
All fields
Date
13 May 23
Course
Hexham
Race
Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase (For The Heart Of Al…
This horse
3/9
Winner next time
Cullin Hills (GB)
Their pos
2
Won on
14 Apr 25
At
Hexham
Race won
Pointing Pointers Open Hunters' Chase

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

Trainer	First run	Last run	First run for yard	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
R Wilkinson	13 May 23	13 May 23	3/9	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£898	€0

R Wilkinson

Trainer: R Wilkinson
First run: 13 May 23
Last run: 13 May 23
First run for yard: 3/9
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £898
Prize IRE (€): €0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Code	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)	First run	Last run
National Hunt	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£898	€0	13 May 23	13 May 23

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £898
Prize IRE (€): €0
First run: 13 May 23
Last run: 13 May 23

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Sire branchFlemensfirth (USA)

Parent · 1

SireFlemensfirth (USA)

Grandparents · 2

Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

Sire's sire's sireNot traced
Sire's sire's damNot traced
Sire's dam's sireNot traced
Sire's dam's damNot traced

Dam branchUte Antique (FR)

Parent · 1

DamUte Antique (FR)

Grandparents · 2

Dam's sireRobin Des Pres (FR)
Dam's damJoie De Cotte (FR)

Great-grandparents · 4

Dam's sire's sireNot traced
Dam's sire's damNot traced
Dam's dam's sireNot traced
Dam's dam's damNot traced

Flemensfirth (USA)

Ute Antique (FR)

Alleged (USA)

Etheldreda (USA)

Robin Des Pres (FR)

Joie De Cotte (FR)

Not traced

Breeding card

HorseWhateveryousay (IRE)

Sexgelding

Foaled2017

SireFlemensfirth (USA)

DamUte Antique (FR)

DamsireRobin Des Pres (FR)

Sire's sireAlleged (USA)

Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)

2nd damJoie De Cotte (FR)

Dam's produce2 winners from 3 runners

Notable siblingDenemethy (IRE)

Female line

Ute Antique (FR) · by Robin Des Pres (FR) · 2 winners from 3 runners
Joie De Cotte (FR) · 3 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Sire	Dam	Damsire	Breeder	Foaled	Colour	Sex	Sire's avg winning distance	Damsire's avg winning distance
Flemensfirth (USA)	Ute Antique (FR)	Robin Des Pres (FR)	J Mangan	5 May 17	bay	gelding	Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f	NH 2m4½f

Flemensfirth (USA)

Sire: Flemensfirth (USA)
Dam: Ute Antique (FR)
Damsire: Robin Des Pres (FR)
Breeder: J Mangan
Foaled: 5 May 17
Colour: bay
Sex: gelding
Sire's avg winning distance: Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f
Damsire's avg winning distance: NH 2m4½f

Progeny of Flemensfirth (USA) in this horse's best conditions

Condition	Runs	Wins	Placed	Win %	Place %	This horse runs
All National Hunt runs	18,772	2,194	5,527	11.7%	29.4%	1
At 2m6f to 3m1f	5,256	619	1,517	11.8%	28.9%	1
On Good to soft or yielding going	4,076	480	1,227	11.8%	30.1%	1
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good to soft or yielding going	1,140	135	350	11.8%	30.7%	1

All National Hunt runs

Condition: All National Hunt runs
Runs: 18,772
Wins: 2,194
Placed: 5,527
Win %: 11.7%
Place %: 29.4%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

At 2m6f to 3m1f

Condition: At 2m6f to 3m1f
Runs: 5,256
Wins: 619
Placed: 1,517
Win %: 11.8%
Place %: 28.9%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

On Good to soft or yielding going

Condition: On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs: 4,076
Wins: 480
Placed: 1,227
Win %: 11.8%
Place %: 30.1%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good to soft or yielding going

Condition: At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs: 1,140
Wins: 135
Placed: 350
Win %: 11.8%
Place %: 30.7%
This horse runs: 1
This horse wins: 0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Flemensfirth (USA) × Robin Des Pres (FR) mares (the cross)

Code	Runners	Winners	Winners %	Black-type winners	Runs	Wins	2nd/3rd	Win %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt	4	2	50.0%	0	47	3	12	6.4%	£36,155	€11,100

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runners: 4
Winners: 2
Winners %: 50.0%
Black-type winners: 0
Runs: 47
Wins: 3
2nd/3rd: 12
Win %: 6.4%
Prize GB (£): £36,155
Prize IRE (€): €11,100

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

Horse	Runs	Wins	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Denemethy (IRE)	15	2	£34,629	€0
Fair Minded (IRE)	26	1	£0	€11,100
Whateveryousay (IRE)	1	0	£898	€0
Diagon Alley (IRE)	5	0	£628	€0

Denemethy (IRE)

Horse: Denemethy (IRE)
Runs: 15
Wins: 2
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £34,629
Prize IRE (€): €0

Fair Minded (IRE)

Horse: Fair Minded (IRE)
Runs: 26
Wins: 1
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €11,100

Whateveryousay (IRE)

Horse: Whateveryousay (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £898
Prize IRE (€): €0

Diagon Alley (IRE)

Horse: Diagon Alley (IRE)
Runs: 5
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £628
Prize IRE (€): €0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Ute Antique (FR)

G1 winners: 0
Produce: 2 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

Denemethy (IRE)2W · 15R

Half siblings

By Fame And Glory (GB)

Robyndeglory (IRE)5W · 49R

Female line

1Ute Antique (FR) · by Robin Des Pres (FR)
2Joie De Cotte (FR)

Notable relatives

Uncle (out of 2nd dam)

Petit Robin (FR)5W · 24R · 1 black-type

View full Joie De Cotte family

In brief

When was Whateveryousay foaled?

Whateveryousay (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 5 May 2017.

Who are the sire and dam of Whateveryousay?

Whateveryousay (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Ute Antique (FR), a daughter of Robin Des Pres (FR), and was bred by J Mangan.

Who trained Whateveryousay?

Whateveryousay (IRE) was trained by R Wilkinson and owned by R Wilkinson at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Whateveryousay's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Whateveryousay (IRE) ran 1 time without winning.

Is Whateveryousay still racing?

Whateveryousay (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 13 May 2023 at Hexham in the Paxton's Are Case IH's No 1 Dealer Maiden Hunters' Chase, finishing 3rd of 9, and has not run there since.

Is Whateveryousay related to any top horses?

Whateveryousay (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Petit Robin (FR) (uncle, Listed winner), from the Joie De Cotte (FR) family.