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What Else (IRE) silks

Horse profile

What Else

Flemensfirth (USA) × Accordello (IRE) (Accordion (IRE))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2011
Colour
bay
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
24 Jan 2017, Wetherby (8/13)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
98

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
24 Jan 17Wetherby8/1340/1distAidan ColemanJonjo O'NeillRacing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' HurdleClass 4Hurdle2mGood to Soft11-4Mr Big Shot (IRE)£3,249232/12
1 Jan 17Exeter9/1220/1distRichie McLernonJonjo O'NeillBilly Williams Memorial Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m1fSoft11-5Air Horse One (GB)£3,249-1/11
  • 8/1324 Jan 17 · Wetherby40/1

    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle

    Class 42mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    24 Jan 17
    Course
    Wetherby
    Pos
    8/13
    SP
    40/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    Winner / 2nd
    Mr Big Shot (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £3,249
    Days
    23
    Future form
    2/12
  • 9/121 Jan 17 · Exeter20/1

    Billy Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m1fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    1 Jan 17
    Course
    Exeter
    Pos
    9/12
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Billy Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-5
    Winner / 2nd
    Air Horse One (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,249
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/11

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
24 Jan 17WetherbyRacing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle8/13Mr Big Shot (IRE)15 Apr 17CarlislePauline Phizacklea Memorial Novices' Hurdle
24 Jan 17WetherbyRacing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle8/13Cousin Oscar (IRE)210 Feb 17Bangor-on-DeeBritish Stallion Studs EBF "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
1 Jan 17ExeterBilly Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle9/12Air Horse One (GB)127 Jan 17TauntonEBF Stallions "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
  • 8/1324 Jan 17 · Wetherby

    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    24 Jan 17
    Course
    Wetherby
    Race
    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    8/13
    Winner next time
    Mr Big Shot (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    5 Apr 17
    Race won
    Pauline Phizacklea Memorial Novices' Hurdle
  • 8/1324 Jan 17 · Wetherby

    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    24 Jan 17
    Course
    Wetherby
    Race
    Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
    This horse
    8/13
    Winner next time
    Cousin Oscar (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    10 Feb 17
    Race won
    British Stallion Studs EBF "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle
  • 9/121 Jan 17 · Exeter

    Billy Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    1 Jan 17
    Course
    Exeter
    Race
    Billy Williams Memorial Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    9/12
    Winner next time
    Air Horse One (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    27 Jan 17
    Race won
    EBF Stallions "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Jonjo O'Neill1 Jan 1724 Jan 179/1220000.0%0.0%£0€0
Jonjo O'Neill
First run
1 Jan 17
Last run
24 Jan 17
First run for yard
9/12
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€01 Jan 1724 Jan 17
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
1 Jan 17
Last run
24 Jan 17

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchFlemensfirth (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireFlemensfirth (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
  2. Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchAccordello (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamAccordello (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireAccordion (IRE)
  2. Dam's damMarello (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireSupreme Leader (GB)
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Flemensfirth (USA)
Accordello (IRE)
Alleged (USA)
Etheldreda (USA)
Accordion (IRE)
Marello (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Supreme Leader (GB)
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseWhat Else (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2011
SireFlemensfirth (USA)
DamAccordello (IRE)
DamsireAccordion (IRE)
Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
2nd damMarello (GB)
2nd dam's sireSupreme Leader (GB)
Dam's own recordBlack-type placed
Dam's produce1 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingReturn To Base (IRE)

Female line

  1. Accordello (IRE) · by Accordion (IRE) · 1 winners from 2 runners · Black-type placed
  2. Marello (GB) · by Supreme Leader (GB) · 4 winners from 7 runners · Grade 2 winner
  3. Clonmello (GB) · 6 winners from 8 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireBreederFoaledColourSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Flemensfirth (USA)Accordello (IRE)Accordion (IRE)K McManus10 May 11baygeldingFlat 15.8f · NH 2m4fFlat 11.7f · NH 2m3½f
Flemensfirth (USA)
Breeder
K McManus
Foaled
10 May 11
Colour
bay
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.7f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Flemensfirth (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs18,7722,1945,52711.7%29.4%20
At 2m to 2m1f5,7007071,78612.4%31.3%20
On Good to soft or yielding going4,0764801,22711.8%30.1%10
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going1,23816640113.4%32.4%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
18,772
Wins
2,194
Placed
5,527
Win %
11.7%
Place %
29.4%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
5,700
Wins
707
Placed
1,786
Win %
12.4%
Place %
31.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
4,076
Wins
480
Placed
1,227
Win %
11.8%
Place %
30.1%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
1,238
Wins
166
Placed
401
Win %
13.4%
Place %
32.4%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Flemensfirth (USA) × Accordion (IRE) mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt191052.6%2191214811.0%£265,928€59,785
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
19
Winners
10
Winners %
52.6%
Black-type winners
2
Runs
191
Wins
21
2nd/3rd
48
Win %
11.0%
Prize GB (£)
£265,928
Prize IRE (€)
€59,785

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Gowel Road (IRE)3051Group/Grade 2£180,739€0
Coolanly (IRE)1831Group/Grade 2£42,102€0
Bronco Billy (IRE)1740-£19,716€0
Return To Base (IRE)1320-£0€18,065
Allez Cool (IRE)2120-£11,755€0
Dysart Dazzler (IRE)110-£0€5,900
Dysart Dasher (IRE)610-£0€9,435
Flemencello (IRE)610-£0€9,320
Cobra Angel (IRE)1210-£5,716€0
Gold Platinum (IRE)1310-£0€5,840
Torredelaroca (IRE)100-£0€0
What Else (IRE)200-£0€0
Gowel Road (IRE)
Runs
30
Wins
5
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Group/Grade 2
Prize GB (£)
£180,739
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Coolanly (IRE)
Runs
18
Wins
3
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Group/Grade 2
Prize GB (£)
£42,102
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bronco Billy (IRE)
Runs
17
Wins
4
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£19,716
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Return To Base (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€18,065
Allez Cool (IRE)
Runs
21
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£11,755
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Dysart Dazzler (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,900
Dysart Dasher (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€9,435
Flemencello (IRE)
Runs
6
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€9,320
Cobra Angel (IRE)
Runs
12
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,716
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Gold Platinum (IRE)
Runs
13
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€5,840
Torredelaroca (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
What Else (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Accordello (IRE)

Record
Black-type placed
G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

Every other foal out of Accordello (IRE) to have raced in Britain or Ireland is a full sibling.

Female line

  1. 1Accordello (IRE) · by Accordion (IRE)
  2. 2Marello (GB) · by Supreme Leader (GB)
  3. 3Clonmello (GB)

Notable relatives

2nd dam

First cousin once removed

View full Clonmello family

In brief

When was What Else foaled?

What Else (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 10 May 2011.

Who are the sire and dam of What Else?

What Else (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Accordello (IRE), a daughter of Accordion (IRE), and was bred by K McManus.

Who trained What Else?

What Else (IRE) was trained by Jonjo O'Neill and owned by John P McManus at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is What Else's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, What Else (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is What Else still racing?

What Else (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 24 January 2017 at Wetherby in the Racing UK In Glorious HD "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle, finishing 8th of 13, and has not run there since.

Is What Else related to any top horses?

What Else (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Marello (GB) (2nd dam, Grade 2 winner) and Cogry (GB) (first cousin once removed, Grade 3 winner), from the Clonmello (GB) family.

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