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Horse profile
Trying For Gold
- TrainerMajor W R Hern
- OwnerHM The King (The Queen)
- FamilyExpansive
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 1986
- Highest OR
- 104
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last official rating
- 104 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Aug 1990, Goodwood (11/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Aug 90 | Goodwood | 11/12 | 40/1 | 23 | B Raymond | Major W R Hern | Tote Gold Trophy Handicap | Handicap (unclassified) | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good to Firm | 10-0 | 104 | Black Monday (GB) | £27,910 | 1/11 |
Tote Gold Trophy Handicap
Handicap (unclassified)1m4fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 1 Aug 90
- Course
- Goodwood
- Pos
- 11/12
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 23
- Jockey
- B Raymond
- Trainer
- Major W R Hern
- Race
- Tote Gold Trophy Handicap
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 10-0
- OR
- 104
- Winner / 2nd
- Black Monday (GB)
- Winner prize
- £27,910
- Future form
- 1/11
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Aug 90 | Goodwood | Tote Gold Trophy Handicap | 11/12 | Murango (GB) | 5 | 6 Sep 90 | Salisbury | Salisbury Festival Handicap |
- 11/121 Aug 90 · Goodwood
Tote Gold Trophy Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 1 Aug 90
- Course
- Goodwood
- Race
- Tote Gold Trophy Handicap
- This horse
- 11/12
- Winner next time
- Murango (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 6 Sep 90
- Race won
- Salisbury Festival Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Major W R Hern | 1 Aug 90 | 1 Aug 90 | 11/12 | 104 | 104 | 104 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Major W R Hern
- Trainer
- Major W R Hern
- First run
- 1 Aug 90
- Last run
- 1 Aug 90
- First run for yard
- 11/12
- OR first run
- 104
- OR last run
- 104
- Best OR
- 104
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 104 | 1 Aug 90 | 1 Aug 90 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 104
- First run
- 1 Aug 90
- Last run
- 1 Aug 90
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchNorthern Baby (CAN)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchExpansive (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireExbury
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Expansive (GB) · 2 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Northern Baby (CAN) | Expansive (GB) | Exbury | filly | Flat 10.2f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2f |
Northern Baby (CAN)
- Damsire
- Exbury
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.2f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Northern Baby (CAN) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 515 | 56 | 133 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 12f to 13f | 115 | 13 | 29 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to firm or firmer going | 190 | 29 | 56 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 12f to 13f on Good to firm or firmer going | 44 | 9 | 15 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 515
- Wins
- 56
- Placed
- 133
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 12f to 13f
- Condition
- At 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 115
- Wins
- 13
- Placed
- 29
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- On Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 190
- Wins
- 29
- Placed
- 56
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 12f to 13f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- At 12f to 13f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 44
- Wins
- 9
- Placed
- 15
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Northern Baby (CAN) × Exbury mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 1 | 0 | 22 | 4 | 6 | - | - | ||
| National Hunt | 1 | 1 | 0 | 11 | 2 | 4 | - | - | ||
| All runs | 2 | 1 | 0 | 33 | 6 | 10 | - | - |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 22
- Wins
- 4
- 2nd/3rd
- 6
- Win %
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 2
- 2nd/3rd
- 4
- Win %
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 33
- Wins
- 6
- 2nd/3rd
- 10
- Win %
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Tahaddi (USA) | 32 | 6 | 0 | - | - |
| Trying For Gold (USA) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Tahaddi (USA)
- Horse
- Tahaddi (USA)
- Runs
- 32
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 0
Trying For Gold (USA)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 104 | 104 | 104 | 1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 104
- Highest OR
- 104
- Lowest OR
- 104
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Aug 90 | Goodwood | Flat | 104 | 11/12 |
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 104 | 104 | 0 | 104 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 104
- OR last run
- 104
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 104
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Northern Baby (CAN) out of Expansive (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Relkino (GB)
- In Order (GB)0W · 2R
By Final Straw (GB)
- Versatile I (GB)0W · 12R
By Shadeed (USA)
- Chesnut Tree (USA)1W · 5R
- Extra Time (GB)0W · 9R
By Green Forest (USA)
- Tissisat (USA)3W · 29R
Female line
- 1Expansive (GB)
Notable relatives
Daughter
- Phantom Gold (GB)4W · 11R · 3 black-type
- Fictitious I (GB)2W · 6R · 1 black-type
Descendant (3 generations)
- Pied Piper (GB)9W · 42R · 2 black-type
- Fabricate (GB)7W · 24R · 3 black-type
- Reach For The Moon (GB)4W · 17R · 1 black-type
- Daphne (GB)4W · 11R · 1 black-type
- Sextant (GB)6W · 23R · 1 black-type
Granddaughter
- Golden Stream (IRE)3W · 15R · 2 black-type
Grandson
- TacticianI (GB)2W · 11R · 1 black-type
Descendant (4 generations)
- Momentary (GB)1W · 6R · 1 black-type
- Perfect Alibi (GB)3W · 7R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Trying For Gold foaled?
Trying For Gold (USA) was foaled in 1986.
Who are the sire and dam of Trying For Gold?
Trying For Gold (USA) is by Northern Baby (CAN) out of Expansive (GB), a daughter of Exbury.
Who trained Trying For Gold?
Trying For Gold (USA) was trained by Major W R Hern and owned by The Queen at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Trying For Gold's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Trying For Gold (USA) ran 1 time without winning.
What was Trying For Gold's official rating?
Trying For Gold (USA) was last officially rated 104 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is Trying For Gold still racing?
Trying For Gold (USA) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 August 1990 at Goodwood in the Tote Gold Trophy Handicap, finishing 11th of 12, and has not run there since.
Is Trying For Gold related to any top horses?
Trying For Gold (USA)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Phantom Gold (GB) (daughter, Group 2 winner), Pied Piper (GB) (descendant, Grade 2 winner) and Fabricate (GB) (descendant, Group 3 winner), from the Expansive (GB) family.
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