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Horse profile

True Tip

True Song (GB) × Copperclown (GB) (Spartan General (GB))
Sex
mare
Foaled
1983
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£158 GB
Last run (GB & IRE)
23 Jan 1991, Wolverhampton (5/14)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
F485

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
23 Jan 91Wolverhampton5/1425/1distD DennisJohn PickeringDudley Novices' Chase (Div II)Non-handicap (unclassified)Chase3m1fGood to Soft10-0General Highway (GB)£3,038232/13
31 Dec 90Leicester8/1211/1distS McNeillJohn PickeringGallowtree Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3mGood10-7Henry Mann (GB)£2,818382/9
23 Nov 90Leicester4/83/15½S McNeillJohn PickeringJohn O'Gaunt Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3mGood10-9Market Forces I (GB)£2,443151/7
8 Nov 90UttoxeterF/914/1-D DennisJohn PickeringBowmer & Kirkland Novices' ChaseNon-handicap (unclassified)Chase3m2fGood10-2Market Forces I (GB)£2,463-2/8
  • 5/1423 Jan 91 · Wolverhampton25/1

    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3m1fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    23 Jan 91
    Pos
    5/14
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    dist
    Jockey
    D Dennis
    Race
    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m1f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-0
    Winner prize
    £3,038
    Days
    23
    Future form
    2/13
  • 8/1231 Dec 90 · Leicester11/1

    Gallowtree Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood

    All fields
    Date
    31 Dec 90
    Course
    Leicester
    Pos
    8/12
    SP
    11/1
    Btn
    dist
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Race
    Gallowtree Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-7
    Winner / 2nd
    Henry Mann (GB)
    Winner prize
    £2,818
    Days
    38
    Future form
    2/9
  • 4/823 Nov 90 · Leicester3/1

    John O'Gaunt Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3mGood

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 90
    Course
    Leicester
    Pos
    4/8
    SP
    3/1
    Btn
    5½
    Jockey
    S McNeill
    Race
    John O'Gaunt Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-9
    Winner prize
    £2,443
    Days
    15
    Future form
    1/7
  • F/98 Nov 90 · Uttoxeter14/1

    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase

    Non-handicap (unclassified)3m2fGood

    All fields
    Date
    8 Nov 90
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Pos
    F/9
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    -
    Jockey
    D Dennis
    Race
    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase
    Class
    Non-handicap (unclassified)
    Type
    Chase
    Dist
    3m2f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-2
    Winner prize
    £2,463
    Days
    -
    Future form
    2/8

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
23 Jan 91WolverhamptonDudley Novices' Chase (Div II)5/14Celtic Trust (GB)418 Mar 91WolverhamptonMarch Novices' Chase (Div I)
23 Jan 91WolverhamptonDudley Novices' Chase (Div II)5/14Rehab Venture (GB)-19 Mar 91NottinghamWelland Novices' Chase
31 Dec 90LeicesterGallowtree Novices' Chase8/12Henry Mann (GB)113 Feb 92LeicesterWren Chase
31 Dec 90LeicesterGallowtree Novices' Chase8/12General Highway (GB)223 Jan 91WolverhamptonDudley Novices' Chase (Div II)
23 Nov 90LeicesterJohn O'Gaunt Novices' Chase4/8Market Forces I (GB)112 Dec 90HaydockSouthport Novices' Chase
8 Nov 90UttoxeterBowmer & Kirkland Novices' ChaseF/9Market Forces I (GB)123 Nov 90LeicesterJohn O'Gaunt Novices' Chase
8 Nov 90UttoxeterBowmer & Kirkland Novices' ChaseF/9Bradwall (GB)220 Nov 90WolverhamptonBourton Novices' Chase
  • 5/1423 Jan 91 · Wolverhampton

    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    23 Jan 91
    Race
    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)
    This horse
    5/14
    Winner next time
    Celtic Trust (GB)
    Their pos
    4
    Won on
    18 Mar 91
    Race won
    March Novices' Chase (Div I)
  • 5/1423 Jan 91 · Wolverhampton

    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)

    All fields
    Date
    23 Jan 91
    Race
    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)
    This horse
    5/14
    Winner next time
    Rehab Venture (GB)
    Their pos
    -
    Won on
    19 Mar 91
    Race won
    Welland Novices' Chase
  • 8/1231 Dec 90 · Leicester

    Gallowtree Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    31 Dec 90
    Course
    Leicester
    Race
    Gallowtree Novices' Chase
    This horse
    8/12
    Winner next time
    Henry Mann (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    13 Feb 92
    Race won
    Wren Chase
  • 8/1231 Dec 90 · Leicester

    Gallowtree Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    31 Dec 90
    Course
    Leicester
    Race
    Gallowtree Novices' Chase
    This horse
    8/12
    Winner next time
    General Highway (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    23 Jan 91
    Race won
    Dudley Novices' Chase (Div II)
  • 4/823 Nov 90 · Leicester

    John O'Gaunt Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    23 Nov 90
    Course
    Leicester
    Race
    John O'Gaunt Novices' Chase
    This horse
    4/8
    Winner next time
    Market Forces I (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    12 Dec 90
    Race won
    Southport Novices' Chase
  • F/98 Nov 90 · Uttoxeter

    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    8 Nov 90
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Race
    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase
    This horse
    F/9
    Winner next time
    Market Forces I (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    23 Nov 90
    Race won
    John O'Gaunt Novices' Chase
  • F/98 Nov 90 · Uttoxeter

    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase

    All fields
    Date
    8 Nov 90
    Course
    Uttoxeter
    Race
    Bowmer & Kirkland Novices' Chase
    This horse
    F/9
    Winner next time
    Bradwall (GB)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    20 Nov 90
    Race won
    Bourton Novices' Chase

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
John Pickering8 Nov 9023 Jan 91F/940000.0%0.0%£158€0
John Pickering
First run
8 Nov 90
Last run
23 Jan 91
First run for yard
F/9
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt40000.0%0.0%£158€08 Nov 9023 Jan 91
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
8 Nov 90
Last run
23 Jan 91

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Chase40000.0%0.0%£158€0
Chase
Race type
Chase
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good30000.0%0.0%£158€0
Good to Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m6f to 3m1f30000.0%0.0%£158€0
3m2f and over10000.0%0.0%£0€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
3m2f and over
Distance
3m2f and over
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Leicester20000.0%0.0%£158€0
Uttoxeter10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Wolverhampton10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Leicester
Course
Leicester
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Uttoxeter
Course
Uttoxeter
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wolverhampton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)40000.0%0.0%£158€0
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners20000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners10000.0%0.0%£158€0
13 to 16 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10000.0%0.0%£0€0
November20000.0%0.0%£158€0
December10000.0%0.0%£0€0
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
November
Month
November
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
D Dennis20000.0%0.0%£0€0
S McNeill20000.0%0.0%£158€0
D Dennis
Jockey
D Dennis
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
S McNeill
Jockey
S McNeill
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
John Pickering40000.0%0.0%£158€0
John Pickering
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40000.0%0.0%£158€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days20000.0%0.0%£158€0
31 to 60 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£158
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchTrue Song (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SireTrue Song (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCopperclown (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamCopperclown (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireSpartan General (GB)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
True Song (GB)
Copperclown (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Spartan General (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseTrue Tip (GB)
Sexmare
Foaled1983
SireTrue Song (GB)
DamCopperclown (GB)
DamsireSpartan General (GB)
Dam's produce1 winners from 4 runners
Notable siblingTrue Clown (GB)

Female line

  1. Copperclown (GB) · 1 winners from 4 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
True Song (GB)Copperclown (GB)Spartan General (GB)mareNH 2m5½fNH 2m5f
True Song (GB)
Sex
mare
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m5½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
NH 2m5f

Progeny of True Song (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs1,080922588.5%23.9%40
At 2m6f to 3m1f36832938.7%25.3%30
On Good going38333928.6%24.0%30
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going13612348.8%25.0%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
1,080
Wins
92
Placed
258
Win %
8.5%
Place %
23.9%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m6f to 3m1f
Condition
At 2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
368
Wins
32
Placed
93
Win %
8.7%
Place %
25.3%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
On Good going
Condition
On Good going
Runs
383
Wins
33
Placed
92
Win %
8.6%
Place %
24.0%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
Condition
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
Runs
136
Wins
12
Placed
34
Win %
8.8%
Place %
25.0%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

True Song (GB) × Spartan General mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt20840.0%014611177.5%£31,551€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
20
Winners
8
Winners %
40.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
146
Wins
11
2nd/3rd
17
Win %
7.5%
Prize GB (£)
£31,551
Prize IRE (€)
€0

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Give Me An Answer (GB)520£3,634€0
True Spartan (GB)1120£4,858€0
Porter's Song (GB)1920£4,030€0
Wheel Tapper (GB)410£1,462€0
True Clown (GB)910£4,408€0
General Harmony (GB)1210£4,036€0
Spartan Chief (GB)1310£3,963€0
Clown Around (GB)1910£3,073€0
Horace I (GB)100£0€0
Skylark Song (GB)200£0€0
Sunday Champers (GB)300£232€0
Clover Song (GB)300£0€0
Give Me An Answer (GB)
Runs
5
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,634
Prize IRE (€)
€0
True Spartan (GB)
Runs
11
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,858
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Porter's Song (GB)
Runs
19
Wins
2
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,030
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wheel Tapper (GB)
Runs
4
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£1,462
Prize IRE (€)
€0
True Clown (GB)
Runs
9
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,408
Prize IRE (€)
€0
General Harmony (GB)
Runs
12
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,036
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Spartan Chief (GB)
Runs
13
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,963
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Clown Around (GB)
Runs
19
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,073
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Horace I (GB)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Skylark Song (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Sunday Champers (GB)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£232
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Clover Song (GB)
Runs
3
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Copperclown (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 4 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

Every other foal out of Copperclown (GB) to have raced in Britain or Ireland is a full sibling.

Female line

  1. 1Copperclown (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

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In brief

When was True Tip foaled?

True Tip (GB) was foaled in 1983.

Who are the sire and dam of True Tip?

True Tip (GB) is by True Song (GB) out of Copperclown (GB), a daughter of Spartan General (GB).

Who trained True Tip?

True Tip (GB) was trained by John Pickering and owned by I D James at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is True Tip's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, True Tip (GB) ran 4 times without winning.

Is True Tip still racing?

True Tip (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 23 January 1991 at Wolverhampton in the Dudley Novices' Chase, finishing 5th of 14, and has not run there since.

What is True Tip's record at Leicester?

True Tip (GB) ran most often at Leicester, with no wins from 2 runs there.

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