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Threatening To Pay (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Threatening To Pay

Sex
gelding
Foaled
2002
Highest OR
117
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£2,149 GB
Last official rating
117 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
18 Feb 2009, Ludlow (2/10)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
332

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
18 Feb 09Ludlow2/109/416Paul MoloneyEvan WilliamsEmma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle3mGood to Soft11-4117Gee Dee Nen (GB)£3,578531/6
27 Dec 08Chepstow3/1415/26¾Paul MoloneyEvan Williamscoral.co.uk Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m3½fSoft10-12-Michel Le Bon (FR)£3,903621/11
26 Oct 08Wincanton3/1012/13¾Wayne HutchinsonEvan WilliamsPaul Nicholls Racing "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle (Div II)Class 4Hurdle1m7½fGood to Soft10-12-Keki Buku (FR)£3,578-0/9
  • 2/1018 Feb 09 · Ludlow9/4

    Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle

    Class 43mGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    18 Feb 09
    Course
    Ludlow
    Pos
    2/10
    SP
    9/4
    Btn
    16
    Race
    Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    3m
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    117
    Winner / 2nd
    Gee Dee Nen (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,578
    Days
    53
    Future form
    1/6
  • 3/1427 Dec 08 · Chepstow15/2

    coral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m3½fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    27 Dec 08
    Course
    Chepstow
    Pos
    3/14
    SP
    15/2
    Btn
    6¾
    Race
    coral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m3½f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Michel Le Bon (FR)
    Winner prize
    £3,903
    Days
    62
    Future form
    1/11
  • 3/1026 Oct 08 · Wincanton12/1

    Paul Nicholls Racing "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle (Div II)

    Class 41m7½fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    26 Oct 08
    Course
    Wincanton
    Pos
    3/10
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    3¾
    Race
    Paul Nicholls Racing "National Hunt" Novices' Hurdle (Div II)
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    1m7½f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    10-12
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Keki Buku (FR)
    Winner prize
    £3,578
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/9

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
18 Feb 09LudlowEmma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle2/10Earth Dream (IRE)517 Mar 09KemptonTurfTV Handicap Hurdle
27 Dec 08Chepstowcoral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle3/14Thetwincamdrift (IRE)231 Jan 09Doncasterwilliamhill.com - More Sports More Action Maiden Hurdle
  • 2/1018 Feb 09 · Ludlow

    Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    18 Feb 09
    Course
    Ludlow
    Race
    Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    2/10
    Winner next time
    Earth Dream (IRE)
    Their pos
    5
    Won on
    17 Mar 09
    Race won
    TurfTV Handicap Hurdle
  • 3/1427 Dec 08 · Chepstow

    coral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle

    All fields
    Date
    27 Dec 08
    Course
    Chepstow
    Race
    coral.co.uk Maiden Hurdle
    This horse
    3/14
    Winner next time
    Thetwincamdrift (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    31 Jan 09
    Race won
    williamhill.com - More Sports More Action Maiden Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Evan Williams26 Oct 0818 Feb 093/1011711711730120.0%100.0%£2,149€0
Evan Williams
First run
26 Oct 08
Last run
18 Feb 09
First run for yard
3/10
OR first run
117
OR last run
117
Best OR
117
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt30120.0%100.0%£2,149€011726 Oct 0818 Feb 09
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
117
First run
26 Oct 08
Last run
18 Feb 09

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle30120.0%100.0%£2,149€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Soft20110.0%100.0%£1,576€0
Soft10010.0%100.0%£573€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,576
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f10010.0%100.0%£525€0
2m2f to 2m5f10010.0%100.0%£573€0
2m6f to 3m1f10100.0%100.0%£1,051€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m2f to 2m5f
Distance
2m2f to 2m5f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0
2m6f to 3m1f
Distance
2m6f to 3m1f
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,051
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Chepstow10010.0%100.0%£573€0
Ludlow10100.0%100.0%£1,051€0
Wincanton10010.0%100.0%£525€0
Chepstow
Course
Chepstow
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Ludlow
Course
Ludlow
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,051
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wincanton
Course
Wincanton
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 430120.0%100.0%£2,149€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners20110.0%100.0%£1,576€0
13 to 16 runners10010.0%100.0%£573€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,576
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
February10100.0%100.0%£1,051€0
October10010.0%100.0%£525€0
December10010.0%100.0%£573€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,051
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Paul Moloney20110.0%100.0%£1,624€0
Wayne Hutchinson10010.0%100.0%£525€0
Paul Moloney
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,624
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wayne Hutchinson
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Evan Williams30120.0%100.0%£2,149€0
Evan Williams
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear30120.0%100.0%£2,149€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,149
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10010.0%100.0%£525€0
31 to 60 days10100.0%100.0%£1,051€0
61 to 120 days10010.0%100.0%£573€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£525
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,051
Prize IRE (€)
€0
61 to 120 days
Days since last run
61 to 120 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£573
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchMoscow Society (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireMoscow Society (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchNiat Supreme (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamNiat Supreme (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireSupreme Leader (GB)
  2. Dam's damGarry Niat (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Garry Niat (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseThreatening To Pay (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2002
SireMoscow Society (USA)
DamNiat Supreme (IRE)
DamsireSupreme Leader (GB)
2nd damGarry Niat (GB)
Dam's produce3 winners from 10 runners
Notable siblingAunt Nora (IRE)

Female line

  1. Niat Supreme (IRE) · by Supreme Leader (GB) · 3 winners from 10 runners
  2. Garry Niat (GB) · 4 winners from 6 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Moscow Society (USA)Niat Supreme (IRE)Supreme Leader (GB)geldingFlat 11.3f · NH 2m3½fFlat 14.3f · NH 2m4f
Moscow Society (USA)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.3f · NH 2m3½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 14.3f · NH 2m4f

Progeny of Moscow Society (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs5,2194561,2928.7%24.8%30
At 2m to 2m1f1,6901624079.6%24.1%10
On Good to soft or yielding going1,021752347.3%22.9%20
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going33831699.2%20.4%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
5,219
Wins
456
Placed
1,292
Win %
8.7%
Place %
24.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
1,690
Wins
162
Placed
407
Win %
9.6%
Place %
24.1%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
On Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
On Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
1,021
Wins
75
Placed
234
Win %
7.3%
Place %
22.9%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
Runs
338
Wins
31
Placed
69
Win %
9.2%
Place %
20.4%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Moscow Society (USA) × Supreme Leader mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt19631.6%1224265311.6%£125,891€60,340
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
19
Winners
6
Winners %
31.6%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
224
Wins
26
2nd/3rd
53
Win %
11.6%
Prize GB (£)
£125,891
Prize IRE (€)
€60,340

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Russian War (IRE)3091Listed£60,898€8,851
Debt To Society (IRE)5270-£28,309€2,230
Patsio (IRE)5250-£7,502€41,700
Mutual Respect I (IRE)2030-£16,718€0
Redunderthebed (IRE)110-£3,253€0
Silent Snow (IRE)1910-£5,744€0
All Style (IRE)100-£0€0
Flytomoscow (IRE)100-£0€0
Bawnoguessociety (IRE)200-£0€0
High Minster (IRE)200-£0€0
Forpaddytheleader (IRE)200-£0€0
Moscow Blaze (IRE)200-£484€0
Russian War (IRE)
Runs
30
Wins
9
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Listed
Prize GB (£)
£60,898
Prize IRE (€)
€8,851
Debt To Society (IRE)
Runs
52
Wins
7
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£28,309
Prize IRE (€)
€2,230
Patsio (IRE)
Runs
52
Wins
5
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£7,502
Prize IRE (€)
€41,700
Mutual Respect I (IRE)
Runs
20
Wins
3
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£16,718
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Redunderthebed (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£3,253
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Silent Snow (IRE)
Runs
19
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£5,744
Prize IRE (€)
€0
All Style (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Flytomoscow (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Bawnoguessociety (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
High Minster (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Forpaddytheleader (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Moscow Blaze (IRE)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£484
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt1171171171
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
Highest OR
117
Lowest OR
117
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
18 Feb 09LudlowNH1172/10
  • 2/1018 Feb 09 · Ludlow
    All fields
    Date
    18 Feb 09
    Course
    Ludlow
    Code
    NH
    OR
    117
    Pos
    2/10

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt11711701170
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
117
OR last run
117
Change
0
Highest OR
117
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Niat Supreme (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
3 winners from 10 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Fourstars Allstar (USA)

By Oscar (IRE)

By Alderbrook (GB)

By Kayf Tara (GB)

By Turtle Island (IRE)

By Kalanisi (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Niat Supreme (IRE) · by Supreme Leader (GB)
  2. 2Garry Niat (GB)

Notable relatives

Half-sister

First cousin

View full Garry Niat family

In brief

When was Threatening To Pay foaled?

Threatening To Pay (IRE) was foaled in 2002.

Who are the sire and dam of Threatening To Pay?

Threatening To Pay (IRE) is by Moscow Society (USA) out of Niat Supreme (IRE), a daughter of Supreme Leader (GB).

Who trained Threatening To Pay?

Threatening To Pay (IRE) was trained by Evan Williams and owned by Mr & Mrs William Rucker at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Threatening To Pay's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Threatening To Pay (IRE) ran 3 times without winning.

What was Threatening To Pay's official rating?

Threatening To Pay (IRE) was last officially rated 117 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Threatening To Pay still racing?

Threatening To Pay (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 18 February 2009 at Ludlow in the Emma Wilding 18th Birthday Maiden Hurdle, finishing 2nd of 10, and has not run there since.

Is Threatening To Pay related to any top horses?

Threatening To Pay (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Aunt Nora (IRE) (half-sister, Grade 2 winner) and Court By Surprise (IRE) (first cousin, Listed winner), from the Garry Niat (GB) family.

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