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Horse profile
Thethingaboutitis
- TrainerDavid Elsworth
- OwnerDoublet Ltd
- Sex
- horse
- Foaled
- 1985
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £26,076 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 21 Jun 1990, Ascot (3/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Jun 90 | Ascot | 3/11 | 20/1 | 5½ | Pat Eddery | David Elsworth | Gold Cup | Group 1 | Flat Turf | 2m4f | Good to Soft | 9-2 | Ashal (GB) | £83,501 | 50 | 1/10 |
| 2 May 90 | Ascot | 2/7 | 11/2 | 5 | S Cauthen | David Elsworth | Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes | Group 3 | Flat Turf | 2m | Good to Firm | 8-11 | Teamster (GB) | £30,840 | 11 | 2/5 |
| 21 Apr 90 | Newbury | 8/11 | 50/1 | 29¼ | J Williams | David Elsworth | Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes | Group 3 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Good | 8-11 | Brush Aside (USA) | £25,815 | - | 1/10 |
Gold Cup
Group 12m4fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 90
- Course
- Ascot
- Pos
- 3/11
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 5½
- Jockey
- Pat Eddery
- Trainer
- David Elsworth
- Race
- Gold Cup
- Class
- Group 1
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 2m4f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 9-2
- Winner / 2nd
- Ashal (GB)
- Winner prize
- £83,501
- Days
- 50
- Future form
- 1/10
Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
Group 32mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 2 May 90
- Course
- Ascot
- Pos
- 2/7
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- 5
- Jockey
- S Cauthen
- Trainer
- David Elsworth
- Race
- Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
- Class
- Group 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 8-11
- Winner / 2nd
- Teamster (GB)
- Winner prize
- £30,840
- Days
- 11
- Future form
- 2/5
Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes
Group 31m4fGood
All fields
- Date
- 21 Apr 90
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 8/11
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- 29¼
- Jockey
- J Williams
- Trainer
- David Elsworth
- Race
- Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes
- Class
- Group 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-11
- Winner / 2nd
- Brush Aside (USA)
- Winner prize
- £25,815
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Jun 90 | Ascot | Gold Cup | 3/11 | Turgeon (USA) | 5 | 21 Sep 91 | Curragh (IRE) | Jefferson Smurfit Memorial Irish St. Leger |
| 2 May 90 | Ascot | Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes | 2/7 | Teamster (GB) | 1 | 28 May 90 | Sandown | Mappin & Webb Henry II EBF Stakes |
| 2 May 90 | Ascot | Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes | 2/7 | Prime Display (USA) | 5 | 14 May 90 | Leopardstown (IRE) | Savel Beg E.B.F. Stakes |
| 21 Apr 90 | Newbury | Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes | 8/11 | Husyan (USA) | 7 | 29 May 90 | Sandown | Brigadier Gerard Stakes |
- 3/1121 Jun 90 · Ascot
Gold Cup
All fields
- Date
- 21 Jun 90
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Gold Cup
- This horse
- 3/11
- Winner next time
- Turgeon (USA)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 21 Sep 91
- At
- Curragh (IRE)
- Race won
- Jefferson Smurfit Memorial Irish St. Leger
- 2/72 May 90 · Ascot
Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 2 May 90
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
- This horse
- 2/7
- Winner next time
- Teamster (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 28 May 90
- At
- Sandown
- Race won
- Mappin & Webb Henry II EBF Stakes
- 2/72 May 90 · Ascot
Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 2 May 90
- Course
- Ascot
- Race
- Insulpak Sagaro EBF Stakes
- This horse
- 2/7
- Winner next time
- Prime Display (USA)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 14 May 90
- Race won
- Savel Beg E.B.F. Stakes
- 8/1121 Apr 90 · Newbury
Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 21 Apr 90
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Lanes End John Porter EBF Stakes
- This horse
- 8/11
- Winner next time
- Husyan (USA)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 29 May 90
- At
- Sandown
- Race won
- Brigadier Gerard Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Elsworth | 21 Apr 90 | 21 Jun 90 | 8/11 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 |
David Elsworth
- Trainer
- David Elsworth
- First run
- 21 Apr 90
- Last run
- 21 Jun 90
- First run for yard
- 8/11
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 | 21 Apr 90 | 21 Jun 90 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 21 Apr 90
- Last run
- 21 Jun 90
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 | ||
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 12f to 13f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 14f and over | 2 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 |
12f to 13f
- Distance
- 12f to 13f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
14f and over
- Distance
- 14f and over
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Group 1 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 | ||
| Group 3 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 |
Group 1
- Class
- Group 1
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Group 3
- Class
- Group 3
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 | ||
| June | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| J Williams | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Pat Eddery | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 | ||
| S Cauthen | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 |
J Williams
- Jockey
- J Williams
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pat Eddery
- Jockey
- Pat Eddery
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
S Cauthen
- Jockey
- S Cauthen
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David Elsworth | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 |
David Elsworth
- Trainer
- David Elsworth
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £26,076 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £11,406 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £14,671 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £11,406
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,671
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFluorescent Light (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchCroquet I (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireCourt Martial
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Croquet I (USA) · 0 winners from 1 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex |
|---|---|---|---|
| Fluorescent Light (USA) | Croquet I (USA) | Court Martial | horse |
Fluorescent Light (USA)
- Damsire
- Court Martial
- Sex
- horse
Progeny of Fluorescent Light (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 3 | 0 | 2 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 14f and over | 2 | 0 | 2 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Good to firm or firmer going | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going | 1 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 14f and over
- Condition
- At 14f and over
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- On Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- At 14f and over on Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Placed
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Fluorescent Light (USA) × Court Martial mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 2 | £26,076 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Thethingaboutitis (USA) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £26,076 | €0 |
Thethingaboutitis (USA)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £26,076
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 1 runners
Full siblings
Thethingaboutitis is the only foal out of Croquet I (USA) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
Thethingaboutitis is the only foal out of Croquet I (USA) to have raced in Britain or Ireland.
Female line
- 1Croquet I (USA)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Thethingaboutitis foaled?
Thethingaboutitis (USA) was foaled in 1985.
Who are the sire and dam of Thethingaboutitis?
Thethingaboutitis (USA) is by Fluorescent Light (USA) out of Croquet I (USA), a daughter of Court Martial.
Who trained Thethingaboutitis?
Thethingaboutitis (USA) was trained by David Elsworth and owned by Doublet Ltd at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Thethingaboutitis' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Thethingaboutitis (USA) ran 3 times without winning. Runs abroad (for example in France, Dubai or the USA) are not included.
Is Thethingaboutitis still racing?
Thethingaboutitis (USA) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 21 June 1990 at Ascot in the Gold Cup, finishing 3rd of 11, and has not run there since.
What is Thethingaboutitis' record at Ascot?
Thethingaboutitis (USA) ran most often at Ascot, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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