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Horse profile
That There
- TrainerM C Pipe
- OwnerMrs Pam Pengelly
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1985
- Highest OR
- 93
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £399 GB
- Last official rating
- 93 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 7 Sep 1991, Stratford (6/10)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 Sep 91 | Stratford | 6/10 | 5/4F | 24 | M Foster | M C Pipe | Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m6f | Good to Firm | 11-6 | 93 | Chasmarella (GB) | £1,644 | 10 | 2/8 |
| 28 Aug 91 | Newton Abbot | 2/6 | 4/6F | 7 | M Foster | M C Pipe | Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle | Handicap (unclassified) | Hurdle | 2m½f | Firm | 12-0 | 92 | Bannister I (GB) | £1,444 | - | 1/5 |
Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
Handicap (unclassified)2m6fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 7 Sep 91
- Course
- Stratford
- Pos
- 6/10
- SP
- 5/4F
- Btn
- 24
- Jockey
- M Foster
- Trainer
- M C Pipe
- Race
- Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 11-6
- OR
- 93
- Winner / 2nd
- Chasmarella (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,644
- Days
- 10
- Future form
- 2/8
Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle
Handicap (unclassified)2m½fFirm
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 91
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Pos
- 2/6
- SP
- 4/6F
- Btn
- 7
- Jockey
- M Foster
- Trainer
- M C Pipe
- Race
- Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Firm
- Wgt
- 12-0
- OR
- 92
- Winner / 2nd
- Bannister I (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,444
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/5
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 Sep 91 | Stratford | Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle | 6/10 | Aberoy (GB) | 3 | 28 Sep 91 | Market Rasen | Owmby Claiming Chase |
| 7 Sep 91 | Stratford | Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle | 6/10 | Landsker Oats (GB) | 7 | 15 Nov 91 | Huntingdon | St Ives Car & Van Hire Novices' Claiming Hurdle |
| 28 Aug 91 | Newton Abbot | Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle | 2/6 | Bannister I (GB) | 1 | 11 Sep 91 | Exeter | Kitsons Novices' Selling Hurdle |
- 6/107 Sep 91 · Stratford
Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 7 Sep 91
- Course
- Stratford
- Race
- Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 6/10
- Winner next time
- Aberoy (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 28 Sep 91
- Race won
- Owmby Claiming Chase
- 6/107 Sep 91 · Stratford
Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 7 Sep 91
- Course
- Stratford
- Race
- Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 6/10
- Winner next time
- Landsker Oats (GB)
- Their pos
- 7
- Won on
- 15 Nov 91
- Race won
- St Ives Car & Van Hire Novices' Claiming Hurdle
- 2/628 Aug 91 · Newton Abbot
Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 91
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Race
- Armitage Shanks Better Bathroom Conditional Jockeys Selling Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 2/6
- Winner next time
- Bannister I (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 11 Sep 91
- At
- Exeter
- Race won
- Kitsons Novices' Selling Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| M C Pipe | 28 Aug 91 | 7 Sep 91 | 2/6 | 92 | 93 | 93 | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £399 | €0 |
M C Pipe
- Trainer
- M C Pipe
- First run
- 28 Aug 91
- Last run
- 7 Sep 91
- First run for yard
- 2/6
- OR first run
- 92
- OR last run
- 93
- Best OR
- 93
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £399
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £399 | €0 | 93 | 28 Aug 91 | 7 Sep 91 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £399
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 93
- First run
- 28 Aug 91
- Last run
- 7 Sep 91
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchOats (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireOats (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchHill Vixen (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireGoldhill (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Hill Vixen (GB) · 3 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Oats (GB) | Hill Vixen (GB) | Goldhill (GB) | gelding | Flat 15.0f · NH 2m5f | Flat 7.8f · NH 2m4½f |
Oats (GB)
- Sire
- Oats (GB)
- Damsire
- Goldhill (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 15.0f · NH 2m5f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.8f · NH 2m4½f
Progeny of Oats (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 2,600 | 301 | 735 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 776 | 70 | 202 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to firm or firmer going | 525 | 68 | 152 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going | 174 | 18 | 52 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 2,600
- Wins
- 301
- Placed
- 735
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 776
- Wins
- 70
- Placed
- 202
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- On Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 525
- Wins
- 68
- Placed
- 152
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
- Runs
- 174
- Wins
- 18
- Placed
- 52
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Oats (GB) × Goldhill mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 2 | £855 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £855
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lehmans Lot (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £456 | €0 |
| That There (GB) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £399 | €0 |
Lehmans Lot (GB)
- Horse
- Lehmans Lot (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £456
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
That There (GB)
- Horse
- That There (GB)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £399
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 93 | 93 | 92 | 2 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 93
- Highest OR
- 93
- Lowest OR
- 92
- Rated runs
- 2
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 7 Sep 91 | Stratford | NH | 93 | 1 | 6/10 |
| 28 Aug 91 | Newton Abbot | NH | 92 | - | 2/6 |
- 6/107 Sep 91 · Stratford
All fields
- Date
- 7 Sep 91
- Course
- Stratford
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 93
- Change
- 1
- Pos
- 6/10
- 2/628 Aug 91 · Newton Abbot
All fields
- Date
- 28 Aug 91
- Course
- Newton Abbot
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 92
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 2/6
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 93 | 93 | 0 | 93 | 0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 93
- OR last run
- 93
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 93
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 8 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Oats (GB) out of Hill Vixen (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Green Ruby (USA)
- Feldspar I (GB)1W · 8R
By Governor General (GB)
- Floosy (GB)2W · 20R
By Risk Me (FR)
- Frisky Fox (GB)0W · 11R
- Alpine Fox (GB)2W · 6R
By Puissance (GB)
- Master Fox (GB)0W · 5R
By Mind Games (GB)
- Foxy Trix (GB)0W · 3R
By Classic Cliche (IRE)
- Foxy Tales (GB)0W · 1R
Female line
- 1Hill Vixen (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was That There foaled?
That There (GB) was foaled in 1985.
Who are the sire and dam of That There?
That There (GB) is by Oats (GB) out of Hill Vixen (GB), a daughter of Goldhill (GB).
Who trained That There?
That There (GB) was trained by M C Pipe and owned by Mrs Pam Pengelly at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is That There's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, That There (GB) ran 2 times without winning.
What was That There's official rating?
That There (GB) was last officially rated 93 over jumps (also the career high).
Is That There still racing?
That There (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 7 September 1991 at Stratford in the Black Prince Conditional Jockeys' Selling Handicap Hurdle, finishing 6th of 10, and has not run there since.
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