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Horse profile
Talk Later
- TrainerA Oliver
- OwnerA Oliver
- FamilyFemme Formidable
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2009
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 2 Nov 2012, Dundalk (AW) (IRE) (12/14)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 Nov 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | 12/14 | 25/1 | 22½ | Billy Lee | A Oliver | Racing Post Maiden | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Flat AW | 1m2½f | Standard | 9-5 | Empress Of Tara (IRE) | €7,245 | 18 | 3/11 |
| 15 Oct 12 | Roscommon (IRE) | 5/10 | 8/1 | 7½ | Chris Hayes | A Oliver | Oran Maiden | Non-handicap (unclassified) | Flat Turf | 1m2f | Heavy | 9-5 | Coilogshakeysirgin (IRE) | €5,520 | - | 0/8 |
- 12/142 Nov 12 · Dundalk (AW) (IRE)25/1
Racing Post Maiden
Non-handicap (unclassified)1m2½fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 2 Nov 12
- Course
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Pos
- 12/14
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 22½
- Jockey
- Billy Lee
- Trainer
- A Oliver
- Race
- Racing Post Maiden
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m2½f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-5
- Winner / 2nd
- Empress Of Tara (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €7,245
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 3/11
Oran Maiden
Non-handicap (unclassified)1m2fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 15 Oct 12
- Course
- Roscommon (IRE)
- Pos
- 5/10
- SP
- 8/1
- Btn
- 7½
- Jockey
- Chris Hayes
- Trainer
- A Oliver
- Race
- Oran Maiden
- Class
- Non-handicap (unclassified)
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m2f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 9-5
- Winner / 2nd
- Coilogshakeysirgin (IRE)
- Winner prize
- €5,520
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 Nov 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Racing Post Maiden | 12/14 | Miss Forde (IRE) | 2 | 30 Nov 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Floodlit Friday Nights At Dundalk Maiden |
| 2 Nov 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Racing Post Maiden | 12/14 | Lonan (IRE) | 5 | 1 Mar 13 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Dundalk Stadium - Light Up Your Night Maiden |
| 2 Nov 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Racing Post Maiden | 12/14 | Johann Bach (IRE) | 6 | 12 Dec 12 | Dundalk (AW) (IRE) | Christmas Race & Dine Packages Maiden |
- 12/142 Nov 12 · Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
Racing Post Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 2 Nov 12
- Course
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race
- Racing Post Maiden
- This horse
- 12/14
- Winner next time
- Miss Forde (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 30 Nov 12
- At
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race won
- Floodlit Friday Nights At Dundalk Maiden
- 12/142 Nov 12 · Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
Racing Post Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 2 Nov 12
- Course
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race
- Racing Post Maiden
- This horse
- 12/14
- Winner next time
- Lonan (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 1 Mar 13
- At
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race won
- Dundalk Stadium - Light Up Your Night Maiden
- 12/142 Nov 12 · Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
Racing Post Maiden
All fields
- Date
- 2 Nov 12
- Course
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race
- Racing Post Maiden
- This horse
- 12/14
- Winner next time
- Johann Bach (IRE)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 12 Dec 12
- At
- Dundalk (AW) (IRE)
- Race won
- Christmas Race & Dine Packages Maiden
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| A Oliver | 15 Oct 12 | 2 Nov 12 | 5/10 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
A Oliver
- Trainer
- A Oliver
- First run
- 15 Oct 12
- Last run
- 2 Nov 12
- First run for yard
- 5/10
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 15 Oct 12 | 2 Nov 12 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 15 Oct 12
- Last run
- 2 Nov 12
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchWhipper (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireWhipper (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireMiesque's Son (USA)
- Sire's damMyth To Reality (FR)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPrima Volta (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sirePrimo Dominie (GB)
- Dam's damFemme Formidable (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Prima Volta (GB) · by Primo Dominie (GB) · 3 winners from 8 runners
- Femme Formidable (GB) · 4 winners from 6 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Whipper (USA) | Prima Volta (GB) | Primo Dominie (GB) | gelding | Flat 8.4f · NH 2m3f | Flat 6.7f · NH 2m1½f |
Whipper (USA)
- Sire
- Whipper (USA)
- Damsire
- Primo Dominie (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.4f · NH 2m3f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.7f · NH 2m1½f
Progeny of Whipper (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 1,739 | 198 | 494 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f | 338 | 41 | 104 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Heavy going | 86 | 17 | 36 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 9f to 11f on Heavy going | 17 | 1 | 6 | 1 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 1,739
- Wins
- 198
- Placed
- 494
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f
- Runs
- 338
- Wins
- 41
- Placed
- 104
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 86
- Wins
- 17
- Placed
- 36
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 9f to 11f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 9f to 11f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 17
- Wins
- 1
- Placed
- 6
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Whipper (USA) × Primo Dominie mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Talk Later (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Talk Later (IRE)
- Horse
- Talk Later (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 8 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Whipper (USA) out of Prima Volta (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Mujadil (USA)
- Bouncing Bowdler (GB)8W · 63R · 3 black-type
By Zilzal (USA)
- Woodlark (GB)0W · 5R
By Indian Ridge (IRE)
- Prakara (IRE)0W · 7R
By King's Best (USA)
- Our Putra (GB)1W · 8R
By Cape Cross (IRE)
- City Of The Kings (IRE)7W · 46R
By Amadeus Wolf (GB)
- Front Run (IRE)0W · 8R
By Thewayyouare (USA)
- Ultima Ora (IRE)0W · 10R
Female line
- 1Prima Volta (GB) · by Primo Dominie (GB)
- 2Femme Formidable (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Bouncing Bowdler (GB)8W · 63R · 3 black-type
In brief
When was Talk Later foaled?
Talk Later (IRE) was foaled in 2009.
Who are the sire and dam of Talk Later?
Talk Later (IRE) is by Whipper (USA) out of Prima Volta (GB), a daughter of Primo Dominie (GB).
Who trained Talk Later?
Talk Later (IRE) was trained by A Oliver and owned by A Oliver at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Talk Later's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Talk Later (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Talk Later still racing?
Talk Later (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 2 November 2012 at Dundalk (AW) (IRE) in the Racing Post Maiden, finishing 12th of 14, and has not run there since.
Is Talk Later related to any top horses?
Talk Later (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Bouncing Bowdler (GB) (half-brother, Group 2 winner), from the Femme Formidable (GB) family.
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