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Horse profile

Some Decision

Roselier (FR) × Rumups Debut (IRE) (Good Thyne (USA))

Sex: gelding
Foaled: 1997

Record (GB & IRE): 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE): £0
Last run (GB & IRE): 19 Feb 2005, Fairyhouse (IRE) (F/16)
Last win (GB & IRE): Never won

Recent form

Form

Race record

Date	Course	Pos	SP	Btn	Jockey	Trainer	Race	Class	Type	Dist	Going	Wgt	Winner / 2nd	Winner prize	Days	Future form
19 Feb 05	Fairyhouse (IRE)	F/16	8/1	-	Brian O'Connell	Philip Fenton	John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase	Non-handicap (unclassified)	Chase	2m6½f	Soft	10-11	General Montcalm (IRE)	€6,910	13	0/14
6 Feb 05	Leopardstown (IRE)	5/7	7/2	dist	Mr G Elliott	Philip Fenton	Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase	Non-handicap (unclassified)	Chase	3m	Soft	11-11	Lord Of The Turf (IRE)	€11,747	-	1/4

F/1619 Feb 05 · Fairyhouse (IRE)8/1
John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m6½fSoft
All fields
Date
19 Feb 05
Course
Fairyhouse (IRE)
Pos
F/16
SP
8/1
Btn
-
Jockey
Brian O'Connell
Trainer
Philip Fenton
Race
John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
Chase
Dist
2m6½f
Going
Soft
Wgt
10-11
Winner / 2nd
General Montcalm (IRE)
Winner prize
€6,910
Days
13
Future form
0/14
5/76 Feb 05 · Leopardstown (IRE)7/2
Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase
Non-handicap (unclassified)3mSoft
All fields
Date
6 Feb 05
Course
Leopardstown (IRE)
Pos
5/7
SP
7/2
Btn
dist
Jockey
Mr G Elliott
Trainer
Philip Fenton
Race
Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
Chase
Dist
3m
Going
Soft
Wgt
11-11
Winner / 2nd
Lord Of The Turf (IRE)
Winner prize
€11,747
Days
-
Future form
1/4

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Date	Course	Race	This horse	Winner next time	Won on	At	Race won
6 Feb 05	Leopardstown (IRE)	Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase	5/7	General Montcalm (IRE)	19 Feb 05	Fairyhouse (IRE)	John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase

5/76 Feb 05 · Leopardstown (IRE)
Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase
All fields
Date
6 Feb 05
Course
Leopardstown (IRE)
Race
Raymond Smith Memorial Hunters Chase
This horse
5/7
Winner next time
General Montcalm (IRE)
Won on
19 Feb 05
At
Fairyhouse (IRE)
Race won
John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

Trainer	First run	Last run	First run for yard	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Philip Fenton	6 Feb 05	19 Feb 05	5/7	2	0	0	0	0.0%	0.0%	£0	€0

Philip Fenton

Trainer: Philip Fenton
First run: 6 Feb 05
Last run: 19 Feb 05
First run for yard: 5/7
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Code	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)	First run	Last run
National Hunt	2	0	0	0	0.0%	0.0%	£0	€0	6 Feb 05	19 Feb 05

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0
First run: 6 Feb 05
Last run: 19 Feb 05

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Sire branchRoselier (FR)

Parent · 1

SireRoselier (FR)

Grandparents · 2

Sire's sireNot traced
Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

Sire's sire's sireNot traced
Sire's sire's damNot traced
Sire's dam's sireNot traced
Sire's dam's damNot traced

Dam branchRumups Debut (IRE)

Parent · 1

DamRumups Debut (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Dam's sireGood Thyne (USA)
Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

Dam's sire's sireNot traced
Dam's sire's damNot traced
Dam's dam's sireNot traced
Dam's dam's damNot traced

Roselier (FR)

Rumups Debut (IRE)

Not traced

Good Thyne (USA)

Not traced

Breeding card

HorseSome Decision (IRE)

Sexgelding

Foaled1997

SireRoselier (FR)

DamRumups Debut (IRE)

DamsireGood Thyne (USA)

Dam's produce1 winners from 3 runners

Notable siblingThe Funky Monkey (IRE)

Female line

Rumups Debut (IRE) · 1 winners from 3 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Sire	Dam	Damsire	Sex	Sire's avg winning distance	Damsire's avg winning distance
Roselier (FR)	Rumups Debut (IRE)	Good Thyne (USA)	gelding	Flat 16.7f · NH 2m6f	Flat 15.0f · NH 2m4½f

Roselier (FR)

Sire: Roselier (FR)
Dam: Rumups Debut (IRE)
Damsire: Good Thyne (USA)
Sex: gelding
Sire's avg winning distance: Flat 16.7f · NH 2m6f
Damsire's avg winning distance: Flat 15.0f · NH 2m4½f

Progeny of Roselier (FR) in this horse's best conditions

Condition	Runs	Wins	Placed	Win %	Place %	This horse runs
All National Hunt runs	12,438	1,340	3,276	10.8%	26.3%	2
At 2m6f to 3m1f	4,633	569	1,356	12.3%	29.3%	2
On Soft going	2,979	353	839	11.8%	28.2%	2
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going	1,119	153	351	13.7%	31.4%	2

All National Hunt runs

Condition: All National Hunt runs
Runs: 12,438
Wins: 1,340
Placed: 3,276
Win %: 10.8%
Place %: 26.3%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

At 2m6f to 3m1f

Condition: At 2m6f to 3m1f
Runs: 4,633
Wins: 569
Placed: 1,356
Win %: 12.3%
Place %: 29.3%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

On Soft going

Condition: On Soft going
Runs: 2,979
Wins: 353
Placed: 839
Win %: 11.8%
Place %: 28.2%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going

Condition: At 2m6f to 3m1f on Soft going
Runs: 1,119
Wins: 153
Placed: 351
Win %: 13.7%
Place %: 31.4%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Roselier (FR) × Good Thyne mares (the cross)

Code	Runners	Winners	Winners %	Black-type winners	Runs	Wins	2nd/3rd	Win %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt	8	4	50.0%	0	88	6	9	6.8%	£22,305	€24,735

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runners: 8
Winners: 4
Winners %: 50.0%
Black-type winners: 0
Runs: 88
Wins: 6
2nd/3rd: 9
Win %: 6.8%
Prize GB (£): £22,305
Prize IRE (€): €24,735

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

Horse	Runs	Wins	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Bell Star (IRE)	8	2	£0	€14,990
Common Girl (IRE)	31	2	£15,956	€0
Fourboystoy (IRE)	9	1	£3,985	€0
The Bulb (IRE)	18	1	£0	€9,376
Some Decision (IRE)	2	0	£0	€0
The Funky Monkey (IRE)	5	0	£569	€0
Falling Star (IRE)	7	0	£0	€369
Market Springer (IRE)	8	0	£1,795	€0

Bell Star (IRE)

Horse: Bell Star (IRE)
Runs: 8
Wins: 2
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €14,990

Common Girl (IRE)

Horse: Common Girl (IRE)
Runs: 31
Wins: 2
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £15,956
Prize IRE (€): €0

Fourboystoy (IRE)

Horse: Fourboystoy (IRE)
Runs: 9
Wins: 1
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £3,985
Prize IRE (€): €0

The Bulb (IRE)

Horse: The Bulb (IRE)
Runs: 18
Wins: 1
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €9,376

Some Decision (IRE)

Horse: Some Decision (IRE)
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €0

The Funky Monkey (IRE)

Horse: The Funky Monkey (IRE)
Runs: 5
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £569
Prize IRE (€): €0

Falling Star (IRE)

Horse: Falling Star (IRE)
Runs: 7
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €369

Market Springer (IRE)

Horse: Market Springer (IRE)
Runs: 8
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £1,795
Prize IRE (€): €0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Rumups Debut (IRE)

G1 winners: 0
Produce: 1 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

The Funky Monkey (IRE)0W · 5R
Common Girl (IRE)2W · 31R

Half siblings

Every other foal out of Rumups Debut (IRE) to have raced in Britain or Ireland is a full sibling.

Female line

1Rumups Debut (IRE)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Rumups Debut family

In brief

When was Some Decision foaled?

Some Decision (IRE) was foaled in 1997.

Who are the sire and dam of Some Decision?

Some Decision (IRE) is by Roselier (FR) out of Rumups Debut (IRE), a daughter of Good Thyne (USA).

Who trained Some Decision?

Some Decision (IRE) was trained by Philip Fenton and owned by F Brady at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Some Decision's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Some Decision (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Some Decision still racing?

Some Decision (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 February 2005 at Fairyhouse (IRE) in the John McCarthy Memorial Hunters Chase (result: fell, 16 ran), and has not run there since.