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Horse profile
Second Thoughts
- TrainerB Llewellyn
- OwnerMrs M Llewellyn
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 1994
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 23 Feb 1999, Ludlow (15/15)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 Feb 99 | Ludlow | 15/15 | 100/1 | dist | J R Kavanagh | B Llewellyn | Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I) | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m | Good | 10-12 | In Question (GB) | £2,052 | 3/13 |
Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
Class 42mGood
All fields
- Date
- 23 Feb 99
- Course
- Ludlow
- Pos
- 15/15
- SP
- 100/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- J R Kavanagh
- Trainer
- B Llewellyn
- Race
- Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-12
- Winner / 2nd
- In Question (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,052
- Future form
- 3/13
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 23 Feb 99 | Ludlow | Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I) | 15/15 | Basman (IRE) | 2 | 11 Mar 99 | Wincanton | Ken Britten Memorial Maiden Hurdle (Div II) |
| 23 Feb 99 | Ludlow | Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I) | 15/15 | Interdream (GB) | 3 | 25 Mar 99 | Wincanton | Somerton Maiden Hurdle Class E |
| 23 Feb 99 | Ludlow | Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I) | 15/15 | Optimistic Thinker (GB) | 6 | 17 Mar 99 | Newton Abbot | Come Greyhound Racing At Newton Abbot Handicap Hurdle Class F |
- 15/1523 Feb 99 · Ludlow
Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 23 Feb 99
- Course
- Ludlow
- Race
- Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 15/15
- Winner next time
- Basman (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 11 Mar 99
- Race won
- Ken Britten Memorial Maiden Hurdle (Div II)
- 15/1523 Feb 99 · Ludlow
Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 23 Feb 99
- Course
- Ludlow
- Race
- Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 15/15
- Winner next time
- Interdream (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 25 Mar 99
- Race won
- Somerton Maiden Hurdle Class E
- 15/1523 Feb 99 · Ludlow
Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
- Date
- 23 Feb 99
- Course
- Ludlow
- Race
- Ash Novices' Hurdle (Div I)
- This horse
- 15/15
- Winner next time
- Optimistic Thinker (GB)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 17 Mar 99
- Race won
- Come Greyhound Racing At Newton Abbot Handicap Hurdle Class F
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| B Llewellyn | 23 Feb 99 | 23 Feb 99 | 15/15 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
B Llewellyn
- Trainer
- B Llewellyn
- First run
- 23 Feb 99
- Last run
- 23 Feb 99
- First run for yard
- 15/15
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 23 Feb 99 | 23 Feb 99 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 23 Feb 99
- Last run
- 23 Feb 99
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchDerrylin (GB)
Parent · 1
- SireDerrylin (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDunsilly Bell (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireLondon Bells (CAN)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Dunsilly Bell (GB) · 1 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Derrylin (GB) | Dunsilly Bell (GB) | London Bells (CAN) | mare | Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f | Flat 6.0f · NH 2m6½f |
Derrylin (GB)
- Sire
- Derrylin (GB)
- Damsire
- London Bells (CAN)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.9f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.0f · NH 2m6½f
Progeny of Derrylin (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 1,752 | 154 | 422 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 588 | 55 | 130 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 605 | 48 | 134 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good going | 190 | 14 | 40 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 1,752
- Wins
- 154
- Placed
- 422
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 588
- Wins
- 55
- Placed
- 130
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 605
- Wins
- 48
- Placed
- 134
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 190
- Wins
- 14
- Placed
- 40
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Derrylin (GB) × London Bells mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Second Thoughts (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Second Thoughts (GB)
- Horse
- Second Thoughts (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 1 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Derrylin (GB) out of Dunsilly Bell (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Rakaposhi King (GB)
- Dragon King (GB)15W · 104R
- Ring The King (GB)0W · 1R
By Arctic Lord (IRE)
- Arctic King (GB)0W · 24R
By Afzal (IRE)
- El Hombre I (GB)0W · 9R
Female line
- 1Dunsilly Bell (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Second Thoughts foaled?
Second Thoughts (GB) was foaled in 1994.
Who are the sire and dam of Second Thoughts?
Second Thoughts (GB) is by Derrylin (GB) out of Dunsilly Bell (GB), a daughter of London Bells (CAN).
Who trained Second Thoughts?
Second Thoughts (GB) was trained by B Llewellyn and owned by Mrs M Llewellyn at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Second Thoughts' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Second Thoughts (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Second Thoughts still racing?
Second Thoughts (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 23 February 1999 at Ludlow in the Ash Novices' Hurdle, finishing 15th of 15, and has not run there since.
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