- TrainerCharlie Mann
- OwnerH Demetriout Stapletonwilsonjonesco
- FamilyTor-Na-Grena
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2003
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Dec 2009, Southwell (PU/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Dec 09 | Southwell | PU/7 | 5/1 | Noel Fehily | Charlie Mann | CE Property Services Group Beginners' Chase | Class 3 | Chase | 3m½f | Good | 11-1 | Mobaasher (USA) | £8,131 | 0/6 |
CE Property Services Group Beginners' Chase
Class 33m½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 1 Dec 09
- Course
- Southwell
- Pos
- PU/7
- SP
- 5/1
- Jockey
- Noel Fehily
- Trainer
- Charlie Mann
- Race
- CE Property Services Group Beginners' Chase
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 11-1
- Winner / 2nd
- Mobaasher (USA)
- Winner prize
- £8,131
- Future form
- 0/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Charlie Mann | 1 Dec 09 | 1 Dec 09 | PU/7 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Charlie Mann
- Trainer
- Charlie Mann
- First run
- 1 Dec 09
- Last run
- 1 Dec 09
- First run for yard
- PU/7
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
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Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 1 Dec 09 | 1 Dec 09 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 1 Dec 09
- Last run
- 1 Dec 09
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchRudimentary (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNureyev (USA)
- Sire's damDoubly Sure (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchTor-Na-Grena (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireTorus (GB)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Tor-Na-Grena (GB) · 3 winners from 8 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rudimentary (USA) | Tor-Na-Grena (GB) | Torus (GB) | gelding | Flat 8.7f · NH 2m3f | Flat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f |
Rudimentary (USA)
- Damsire
- Torus (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.7f · NH 2m3f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.8f · NH 2m3½f
Progeny of Rudimentary (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 3,231 | 289 | 765 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f | 588 | 57 | 143 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 942 | 82 | 222 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going | 187 | 21 | 51 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 3,231
- Wins
- 289
- Placed
- 765
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 588
- Wins
- 57
- Placed
- 143
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 942
- Wins
- 82
- Placed
- 222
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f on Good going
- Runs
- 187
- Wins
- 21
- Placed
- 51
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Rudimentary (USA) × Torus mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 3
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Rude Not To (IRE) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Born Strong (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Rose Eile Conroy (IRE) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Rude Not To (IRE)
- Horse
- Rude Not To (IRE)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Born Strong (IRE)
- Horse
- Born Strong (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Rose Eile Conroy (IRE)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 8 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Rudimentary (USA) out of Tor-Na-Grena (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Orchestra (GB)
- Corket (IRE)10W · 51R · 1 black-type
- Market Lass (IRE)5W · 28R · 1 black-type
By Broken Hearted (GB)
- Croi Na Greine (IRE)0W · 6R
- Lis Na Grena (IRE)0W · 3R
- Scart Lass (IRE)0W · 2R
By Toulon (GB)
- Golly (IRE)2W · 39R
- Gerarda (IRE)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Tor-Na-Grena (GB)
Notable relatives
Half-brother
- Corket (IRE)10W · 51R · 1 black-type
Half-sister
- Market Lass (IRE)5W · 28R · 1 black-type
Nephew (out of a sibling)
- Minella Four Star (IRE)2W · 15R · 1 black-type
In brief
When was Rude Not To foaled?
Rude Not To (IRE) was foaled in 2003.
Who are the sire and dam of Rude Not To?
Rude Not To (IRE) is by Rudimentary (USA) out of Tor-Na-Grena (GB), a daughter of Torus (GB).
Who trained Rude Not To?
Rude Not To (IRE) was trained by Charlie Mann and owned by H Demetriout Stapletonwilsonjonesco at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Rude Not To's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Rude Not To (IRE) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Rude Not To still racing?
Rude Not To (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 December 2009 at Southwell in the CE Property Services Group Beginners' Chase (result: pulled up, 7 ran), and has not run there since.
Is Rude Not To related to any top horses?
Rude Not To (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Corket (IRE) (half-brother, Grade 3 winner), Market Lass (IRE) (half-sister, Grade 3 winner) and Minella Four Star (IRE) (nephew, Listed winner), from the Tor-Na-Grena (GB) family.
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