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Horse profile
Primitive Rebel
- TrainerHenry Hogarth
- OwnerHogarth Racing
- FamilyCherry Token
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1999
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 3 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 11 Nov 2005, Newcastle (PU/17)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11 Nov 05 | Newcastle | PU/17 | 40/1 | - | David O'Meara | Henry Hogarth | I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E | Class 4 | Hurdle | 2m4½f | Good to Soft | 10-11 | Ballyfitz (GB) | £3,447 | 363 | 1/16 |
| 13 Nov 04 | Uttoxeter | 5/11 | 16/1 | 13½ | James Davies | Henry Hogarth | Betfred "The Bonus King" Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m | Soft | 11-1 | Crashtown Leader (IRE) | £1,904 | 27 | 0/10 |
| 17 Oct 04 | Market Rasen | 5/14 | 40/1 | 27 | David O'Meara | Henry Hogarth | Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m1½f | Soft | 11-2 | Golden Measure (GB) | £2,296 | - | 1/13 |
I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
Class 42m4½fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 11 Nov 05
- Course
- Newcastle
- Pos
- PU/17
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- David O'Meara
- Trainer
- Henry Hogarth
- Race
- I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m4½f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 10-11
- Winner / 2nd
- Ballyfitz (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,447
- Days
- 363
- Future form
- 1/16
Betfred "The Bonus King" Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
Class 62mSoft
All fields
- Date
- 13 Nov 04
- Course
- Uttoxeter
- Pos
- 5/11
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 13½
- Jockey
- James Davies
- Trainer
- Henry Hogarth
- Race
- Betfred "The Bonus King" Standard National Hunt Flat Race Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-1
- Winner / 2nd
- Crashtown Leader (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,904
- Days
- 27
- Future form
- 0/10
Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
Class 62m1½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 17 Oct 04
- Course
- Market Rasen
- Pos
- 5/14
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 27
- Jockey
- David O'Meara
- Trainer
- Henry Hogarth
- Race
- Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m1½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-2
- Winner / 2nd
- Golden Measure (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,296
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/13
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 11 Nov 05 | Newcastle | I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E | PU/17 | Jethro Tull (IRE) | 10 | 22 Nov 05 | Sedgefield | Betfred Poker Handicap Hurdle Class D |
| 17 Oct 04 | Market Rasen | Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H | 5/14 | Oscardeal (IRE) | 14 | 24 Jan 05 | Southwell | Pantry Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H |
- PU/1711 Nov 05 · Newcastle
I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
All fields
- Date
- 11 Nov 05
- Course
- Newcastle
- Race
- I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E
- This horse
- PU/17
- Winner next time
- Jethro Tull (IRE)
- Their pos
- 10
- Won on
- 22 Nov 05
- Race won
- Betfred Poker Handicap Hurdle Class D
- 5/1417 Oct 04 · Market Rasen
Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
All fields
- Date
- 17 Oct 04
- Course
- Market Rasen
- Race
- Now Then Love Me Do Sue Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
- This horse
- 5/14
- Winner next time
- Oscardeal (IRE)
- Their pos
- 14
- Won on
- 24 Jan 05
- Race won
- Pantry Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Henry Hogarth | 17 Oct 04 | 11 Nov 05 | 5/14 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Henry Hogarth
- Trainer
- Henry Hogarth
- First run
- 17 Oct 04
- Last run
- 11 Nov 05
- First run for yard
- 5/14
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 17 Oct 04 | 11 Nov 05 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 17 Oct 04
- Last run
- 11 Nov 05
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Soft | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m2f to 2m5f | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m2f to 2m5f
- Distance
- 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Market Rasen | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Newcastle | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Uttoxeter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Market Rasen
- Course
- Market Rasen
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Newcastle
- Course
- Newcastle
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Uttoxeter
- Course
- Uttoxeter
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 9 to 12 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 17+ runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
17+ runners
- Runners
- 17+ runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| October | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| November | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
October
- Month
- October
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| David O'Meara | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| James Davies | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
David O'Meara
- Jockey
- David O'Meara
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
James Davies
- Jockey
- James Davies
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Henry Hogarth | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Henry Hogarth
- Trainer
- Henry Hogarth
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchPrimitive Rising (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDistant Cherry (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireGeneral Ironside (IRE)
- Dam's damCherry Token (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Distant Cherry (GB) · by General Ironside (IRE) · 0 winners from 5 runners
- Cherry Token (GB) · 1 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Primitive Rising (USA) | Distant Cherry (GB) | General Ironside (IRE) | gelding | Flat 10.3f · NH 2m4½f | NH 2m5f |
Primitive Rising (USA)
- Damsire
- General Ironside (IRE)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 10.3f · NH 2m4½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- NH 2m5f
Progeny of Primitive Rising (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 2,408 | 223 | 611 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f | 851 | 94 | 225 | 2 | 0 | ||
| On Soft going | 492 | 51 | 117 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going | 169 | 26 | 54 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 2,408
- Wins
- 223
- Placed
- 611
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f
- Runs
- 851
- Wins
- 94
- Placed
- 225
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 492
- Wins
- 51
- Placed
- 117
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
- Condition
- At 2m2f to 2m5f on Soft going
- Runs
- 169
- Wins
- 26
- Placed
- 54
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Primitive Rising (USA) × General Ironside mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Primitive Rebel (GB) | 3 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Primitive Rebel (GB)
- Horse
- Primitive Rebel (GB)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Primitive Rising (USA) out of Distant Cherry (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Perpendicular (GB)
- The Sleeper (GB)0W · 13R
- Libertine Lady (GB)0W · 2R
By Keen (GB)
- Cherry's Echo (GB)0W · 4R
By Defacto I (USA)
- Northern Matriarch (GB)0W · 1R
Female line
- 1Distant Cherry (GB) · by General Ironside (IRE)
- 2Cherry Token (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Primitive Rebel foaled?
Primitive Rebel (GB) was foaled in 1999.
Who are the sire and dam of Primitive Rebel?
Primitive Rebel (GB) is by Primitive Rising (USA) out of Distant Cherry (GB), a daughter of General Ironside (IRE).
Who trained Primitive Rebel?
Primitive Rebel (GB) was trained by Henry Hogarth and owned by Hogarth Racing at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Primitive Rebel's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Primitive Rebel (GB) ran 3 times without winning.
Is Primitive Rebel still racing?
Primitive Rebel (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 11 November 2005 at Newcastle in the I.T.P.S. 5th Birthday Novices' Hurdle Class E (result: pulled up, 17 ran), and has not run there since.
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