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Horse profile
Point Sur
- TrainerCharlie Appleby
- OwnerGodolphin
- FamilyWurftaube
- Sex
- colt
- Foaled
- 2021
- Colour
- bay
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 1 win from 2 runs (50%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £4,954 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 25 Oct 2023, Newmarket (1/12)
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25 Oct 23 | Newmarket | 1/12 | 13/8F | won hd | William Buick | Charlie Appleby | Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 7f | Soft | 9-2 | h | Native Warrior (GB) | £4,320 | 18 | 3/10 |
| 7 Oct 23 | Newmarket | 4/8 | 11/2 | ¾ | Kevin Stott | Charlie Appleby | Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 7f | Good to Firm | 9-7 | h | Sons And Lovers (GB) | £5,400 | - | 3/7 |
- 1/1225 Oct 23 · Newmarket13/8F
Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
Class 47fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 25 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Pos
- 1/12
- SP
- 13/8F
- Btn
- won hd
- Jockey
- William Buick
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- Race
- Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-2
- Headgear
- h
- Winner / 2nd
- Native Warrior (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,320
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 3/10
- 4/87 Oct 23 · Newmarket11/2
Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
Class 47fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 7 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Pos
- 4/8
- SP
- 11/2
- Btn
- ¾
- Jockey
- Kevin Stott
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- Race
- Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-7
- Headgear
- h
- Winner / 2nd
- Sons And Lovers (GB)
- Winner prize
- £5,400
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 3/7
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 25 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | 1/12 | Into Battle (IRE) | 5 | 8 Nov 23 | Kempton (AW) | Unibet Horserace Betting Operator Of The Year Restricted Maiden Stakes (Div I) |
| 25 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | 1/12 | Specialisation (GB) | 9 | 27 Apr 24 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Free Digital Racecard At raceday-ready.com Novice Stakes |
| 25 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings) | 1/12 | Daarkom (GB) | 10 | 17 Nov 23 | Newcastle (AW) | BetMGM: Stay Golden With Responsible Play EBF Novice Stakes (Div I) |
| 7 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes | 4/8 | Placo (IRE) | 2 | 1 Nov 23 | Lingfield (AW) | BetMGM: It's Showtime Maiden Stakes |
| 7 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes | 4/8 | Christian David (IRE) | 3 | 26 Oct 23 | Lingfield (AW) | Bet £10 Get £40 At BetMGM Novice Stakes |
| 7 Oct 23 | Newmarket | Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes | 4/8 | Mulciber (GB) | 6 | 17 Nov 23 | Newcastle (AW) | Gamble Responsibly At BetMGM Nursery Handicap |
- 1/1225 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
All fields
- Date
- 25 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- This horse
- 1/12
- Winner next time
- Into Battle (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 8 Nov 23
- At
- Kempton (AW)
- Race won
- Unibet Horserace Betting Operator Of The Year Restricted Maiden Stakes (Div I)
- 1/1225 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
All fields
- Date
- 25 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- This horse
- 1/12
- Winner next time
- Specialisation (GB)
- Their pos
- 9
- Won on
- 27 Apr 24
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Free Digital Racecard At raceday-ready.com Novice Stakes
- 1/1225 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
All fields
- Date
- 25 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes (Colts & Geldings)
- This horse
- 1/12
- Winner next time
- Daarkom (GB)
- Their pos
- 10
- Won on
- 17 Nov 23
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- BetMGM: Stay Golden With Responsible Play EBF Novice Stakes (Div I)
- 4/87 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 7 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/8
- Winner next time
- Placo (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 1 Nov 23
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- BetMGM: It's Showtime Maiden Stakes
- 4/87 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 7 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/8
- Winner next time
- Christian David (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 26 Oct 23
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Bet £10 Get £40 At BetMGM Novice Stakes
- 4/87 Oct 23 · Newmarket
Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 7 Oct 23
- Course
- Newmarket
- Race
- Virgin Bet Daily Price Boost Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/8
- Winner next time
- Mulciber (GB)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 17 Nov 23
- At
- Newcastle (AW)
- Race won
- Gamble Responsibly At BetMGM Nursery Handicap
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Charlie Appleby | 7 Oct 23 | 25 Oct 23 | 4/8 | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,954 | €0 |
Charlie Appleby
- Trainer
- Charlie Appleby
- First run
- 7 Oct 23
- Last run
- 25 Oct 23
- First run for yard
- 4/8
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,954
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 1 | 0 | 0 | £4,954 | €0 | 7 Oct 23 | 25 Oct 23 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,954
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 7 Oct 23
- Last run
- 25 Oct 23
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchToo Darn Hot (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDubawi (IRE)
- Sire's damDar Re Mi (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchBright Beacon (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireManduro (GER)
- Dam's damWaldmark (GER)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireMark Of Esteem (IRE)
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Bright Beacon (GB) · by Manduro (GER) · 5 winners from 5 runners
- Waldmark (GER) · by Mark Of Esteem (IRE) · 6 winners from 8 runners · Black-type placed
- Wurftaube (GER) · 4 winners from 4 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Breeder | Foaled | Colour | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Too Darn Hot (GB) | Bright Beacon (GB) | Manduro (GER) | Godolphin | 5 Mar 21 | bay | colt | Flat 8.1f · NH 2m | Flat 9.1f · NH 2m2f |
Too Darn Hot (GB)
- Damsire
- Manduro (GER)
- Breeder
- Godolphin
- Foaled
- 5 Mar 21
- Colour
- bay
- Sex
- colt
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.1f · NH 2m
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.1f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Too Darn Hot (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 2,048 | 295 | 664 | 2 | 1 | ||
| At 7f to 1m | 1,061 | 155 | 353 | 2 | 1 | ||
| On Soft going | 144 | 22 | 53 | 1 | 1 | ||
| At 7f to 1m on Soft going | 77 | 11 | 28 | 1 | 1 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 2,048
- Wins
- 295
- Placed
- 664
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
At 7f to 1m
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 1,061
- Wins
- 155
- Placed
- 353
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 1
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 144
- Wins
- 22
- Placed
- 53
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
At 7f to 1m on Soft going
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m on Soft going
- Runs
- 77
- Wins
- 11
- Placed
- 28
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 1
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Too Darn Hot (GB) × Manduro (GER) mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 2 | 0 | 10 | 4 | 1 | £66,080 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 2
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 4
- 2nd/3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £66,080
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Scoville (GB) | 8 | 3 | 0 | £61,126 | €0 |
| Point Sur (IRE) | 2 | 1 | 0 | £4,954 | €0 |
Scoville (GB)
- Horse
- Scoville (GB)
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £61,126
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Point Sur (IRE)
- Horse
- Point Sur (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £4,954
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 5 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Too Darn Hot (GB) out of Bright Beacon (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Shamardal (USA)
- Warning Fire (GB)5W · 19R
By Dubawi (IRE)
- Al Dabaran (GB)2W · 5R · 1 black-type
- Al Nayyir (GB)1W · 10R · 1 black-type
- New London (IRE)4W · 9R · 1 black-type
Female line
- 1Bright Beacon (GB) · by Manduro (GER)
- 2Waldmark (GER) · by Mark Of Esteem (IRE)
- 3Wurftaube (GER)
Notable relatives
Uncle (out of 2nd dam)
- Masked Marvel (GB)4W · 12R · 1 G1
Half-brother
- Al Nayyir (GB)1W · 10R · 1 black-type
- New London (IRE)4W · 9R · 1 black-type
- Al Dabaran (GB)2W · 5R · 1 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Colonel Mustard (FR)4W · 32R · 1 black-type
In brief
How old is Point Sur?
Point Sur (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 5 March 2021 and is 5 years old.
Who are the sire and dam of Point Sur?
Point Sur (IRE) is by Too Darn Hot (GB) out of Bright Beacon (GB), a daughter of Manduro (GER), and was bred by Godolphin.
Who trained Point Sur?
Point Sur (IRE) was trained by Charlie Appleby and owned by Godolphin at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Point Sur's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Point Sur (IRE) won 1 of 2 races (50%).
What is Point Sur's biggest win?
Point Sur (IRE)'s only win in Britain or Ireland came in the Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes at Newmarket on 25 October 2023.
Has Point Sur ever been beaten?
Point Sur (IRE) was beaten once in 2 runs in Britain and Ireland, on 7 October 2023 at Newmarket (4th of 8).
Is Point Sur still racing?
Point Sur (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 25 October 2023 at Newmarket in the Join Racing TV Now Novice Stakes, finishing 1st of 12, and has not run there since.
Is Point Sur related to any top horses?
Point Sur (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Al Nayyir (GB) (half-brother, Group 2 winner), New London (IRE) (half-brother, Group 3 winner) and Al Dabaran (GB) (half-brother, Listed winner), from the Wurftaube (GER) family.
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