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Horse profile
Not So Prudent
- TrainerPhilip Hobbs
- OwnerLady Blyth
- FamilyPrincess Story
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2004
- Highest OR
- 112
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 9 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £1,222 GB
- Last official rating
- 95 (Jumps)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 21 Feb 2012, Taunton (4/13)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
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Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | 4/13 | 18/1 | 26¼ | Richard Johnson | Philip Hobbs | Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 3m | Good to Soft | 11-12 | 95 | Velator (GB) | £2,395 | 23 | 4/10 |
| 29 Jan 12 | Ffos Las | PU/11 | 6/1 | - | Richard Johnson | Philip Hobbs | lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle | Class 4 | Hurdle | 3m | Heavy | 11-0 | 98 | Pension Plan (GB) | £3,249 | 28 | 1/9 |
| 1 Jan 12 | Exeter | 3/8 | 14/1 | 12½ | Chris Davies | Philip Hobbs | Billy Williams Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle | Class 5 | Hurdle | 2m7f | Soft | 11-5 | 100 | Mission Complete (IRE) | £2,274 | 18 | 0/7 |
| 14 Dec 11 | Newbury | PU/10 | 50/1 | - | Richard Johnson | Philip Hobbs | Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase | Class 3 | Chase | 2m7½f | Soft | 10-11 | 112 | Penny Max (IRE) | £6,498 | 32 | 2/9 |
| 12 Nov 11 | Uttoxeter | 7/10 | 25/1 | dist | Tom O'Brien | Philip Hobbs | Wychwood Hobgoblin Beginners' Chase | Class 5 | Chase | 3m | Good to Soft | 11-3 | - | Chariot Charger (IRE) | £2,469 | 256 | 0/9 |
| 1 Mar 11 | Leicester | UR/4 | 4/1 | - | David England | Nigel Twiston-Davies | ladbrokes.com Rutland Water Novices' Chase | Class 3 | Chase | 2m6½f | Heavy | 10-12 | - | Galaxy Rock (IRE) | £5,055 | 37 | 0/2 |
| 23 Jan 11 | Towcester | PU/5 | 4/1 | - | Paddy Brennan | Nigel Twiston-Davies | gg.com Alerts Beginners' Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 3m½f | Soft | 11-0 | - | Chamirey (FR) | £2,666 | 23 | 0/4 |
| 31 Dec 10 | Uttoxeter | 2/5 | 28/1 | 9 | Paddy Brennan | Nigel Twiston-Davies | Music Magpie Beginners' Chase | Class 4 | Chase | 3m | Heavy | 11-0 | - | Glenwood Knight (IRE) | £2,942 | 671 | 0/4 |
| 28 Feb 09 | Newbury | 10/11 | 20/1 | dist | Robert L Butler | Carl Llewellyn | totesportbingo.com Bumper | Class 5 | NH Flat | 2m½f | Good | 10-13 | - | Bellvano (GER) | £2,055 | - | 1/10 |
Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
Class 53mGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Pos
- 4/13
- SP
- 18/1
- Btn
- 26¼
- Jockey
- Richard Johnson
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-12
- OR
- 95
- Winner / 2nd
- Velator (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,395
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 4/10
lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle
Class 43mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 29 Jan 12
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Pos
- PU/11
- SP
- 6/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Richard Johnson
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Race
- lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- 98
- Winner / 2nd
- Pension Plan (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,249
- Days
- 28
- Future form
- 1/9
Billy Williams Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle
Class 52m7fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jan 12
- Course
- Exeter
- Pos
- 3/8
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- 12½
- Jockey
- Chris Davies
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Race
- Billy Williams Memorial Novices' Handicap Hurdle
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Hurdle
- Dist
- 2m7f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-5
- OR
- 100
- Winner / 2nd
- Mission Complete (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,274
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 0/7
Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
Class 32m7½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 11
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- PU/10
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Richard Johnson
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Race
- Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m7½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 10-11
- OR
- 112
- Winner / 2nd
- Penny Max (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £6,498
- Days
- 32
- Future form
- 2/9
Wychwood Hobgoblin Beginners' Chase
Class 53mGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 12 Nov 11
- Course
- Uttoxeter
- Pos
- 7/10
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Tom O'Brien
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Race
- Wychwood Hobgoblin Beginners' Chase
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-3
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Chariot Charger (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,469
- Days
- 256
- Future form
- 0/9
ladbrokes.com Rutland Water Novices' Chase
Class 32m6½fHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 1 Mar 11
- Course
- Leicester
- Pos
- UR/4
- SP
- 4/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- David England
- Trainer
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Race
- ladbrokes.com Rutland Water Novices' Chase
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 2m6½f
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 10-12
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Galaxy Rock (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £5,055
- Days
- 37
- Future form
- 0/2
- PU/523 Jan 11 · Towcester4/1
gg.com Alerts Beginners' Chase
Class 43m½fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 23 Jan 11
- Course
- Towcester
- Pos
- PU/5
- SP
- 4/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- Paddy Brennan
- Trainer
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Race
- gg.com Alerts Beginners' Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m½f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Chamirey (FR)
- Winner prize
- £2,666
- Days
- 23
- Future form
- 0/4
Music Magpie Beginners' Chase
Class 43mHeavy
All fields
- Date
- 31 Dec 10
- Course
- Uttoxeter
- Pos
- 2/5
- SP
- 28/1
- Btn
- 9
- Jockey
- Paddy Brennan
- Trainer
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Race
- Music Magpie Beginners' Chase
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Chase
- Dist
- 3m
- Going
- Heavy
- Wgt
- 11-0
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Glenwood Knight (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,942
- Days
- 671
- Future form
- 0/4
totesportbingo.com Bumper
Class 52m½fGood
All fields
- Date
- 28 Feb 09
- Course
- Newbury
- Pos
- 10/11
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Robert L Butler
- Trainer
- Carl Llewellyn
- Race
- totesportbingo.com Bumper
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 10-13
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Bellvano (GER)
- Winner prize
- £2,055
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 1/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle | 4/13 | Velator (GB) | 1 | 27 Feb 12 | Plumpton | Happy Birthday Charlie Griffiths & Nick Russell Handicap Hurdle |
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle | 4/13 | Hobb's Dream (IRE) | 3 | 9 Mar 12 | Wincanton | Grolsch Handicap Chase |
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle | 4/13 | Gentleman Jimmy (GB) | 6 | 12 Mar 12 | Plumpton | Drive In Movie 18th August Handicap Hurdle |
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle | 4/13 | Munlochy Bay (GB) | - | 27 Mar 12 | Hereford | Thermolast Roofing Ltd. Handicap Hurdle |
| 29 Jan 12 | Ffos Las | lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle | PU/11 | Bendant (GB) | 4 | 19 Feb 12 | Ffos Las | Dunraven Windows Novices' Handicap Hurdle |
| 14 Dec 11 | Newbury | Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase | PU/10 | Penny Max (IRE) | 1 | 1 Jan 12 | Exeter | Bathwick Tyres Plymouth Novices' Chase |
| 14 Dec 11 | Newbury | Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase | PU/10 | Wyck Hill (IRE) | 2 | 17 Nov 12 | Wetherby | totepool Handicap Chase |
| 28 Feb 09 | Newbury | totesportbingo.com Bumper | 10/11 | Bellvano (GER) | 1 | 27 Nov 09 | Newbury | Racing UK "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle |
- 4/1321 Feb 12 · Taunton
Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/13
- Winner next time
- Velator (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 27 Feb 12
- At
- Plumpton
- Race won
- Happy Birthday Charlie Griffiths & Nick Russell Handicap Hurdle
- 4/1321 Feb 12 · Taunton
Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/13
- Winner next time
- Hobb's Dream (IRE)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 9 Mar 12
- Race won
- Grolsch Handicap Chase
- 4/1321 Feb 12 · Taunton
Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/13
- Winner next time
- Gentleman Jimmy (GB)
- Their pos
- 6
- Won on
- 12 Mar 12
- At
- Plumpton
- Race won
- Drive In Movie 18th August Handicap Hurdle
- 4/1321 Feb 12 · Taunton
Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- 4/13
- Winner next time
- Munlochy Bay (GB)
- Their pos
- -
- Won on
- 27 Mar 12
- At
- Hereford
- Race won
- Thermolast Roofing Ltd. Handicap Hurdle
- PU/1129 Jan 12 · Ffos Las
lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle
All fields
- Date
- 29 Jan 12
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Race
- lindleygroup.com Handicap Hurdle
- This horse
- PU/11
- Winner next time
- Bendant (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 19 Feb 12
- At
- Ffos Las
- Race won
- Dunraven Windows Novices' Handicap Hurdle
- PU/1014 Dec 11 · Newbury
Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 11
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
- This horse
- PU/10
- Winner next time
- Penny Max (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 1 Jan 12
- At
- Exeter
- Race won
- Bathwick Tyres Plymouth Novices' Chase
- PU/1014 Dec 11 · Newbury
Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 11
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- Coolmation Novices' Limited Handicap Chase
- This horse
- PU/10
- Winner next time
- Wyck Hill (IRE)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 17 Nov 12
- At
- Wetherby
- Race won
- totepool Handicap Chase
- 10/1128 Feb 09 · Newbury
totesportbingo.com Bumper
All fields
- Date
- 28 Feb 09
- Course
- Newbury
- Race
- totesportbingo.com Bumper
- This horse
- 10/11
- Winner next time
- Bellvano (GER)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 27 Nov 09
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Racing UK "National Hunt" Maiden Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | Moved from | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Philip Hobbs | Nigel Twiston-Davies | 12 Nov 11 | 21 Feb 12 | 7/10 | 112 | 95 | 112 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| Nigel Twiston-Davies | Carl Llewellyn | 31 Dec 10 | 1 Mar 11 | 2/5 | - | - | - | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| Carl Llewellyn | - | 28 Feb 09 | 28 Feb 09 | 10/11 | - | - | - | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Philip Hobbs
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Moved from
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- First run
- 12 Nov 11
- Last run
- 21 Feb 12
- First run for yard
- 7/10
- OR first run
- 112
- OR last run
- 95
- Best OR
- 112
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Trainer
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Moved from
- Carl Llewellyn
- First run
- 31 Dec 10
- Last run
- 1 Mar 11
- First run for yard
- 2/5
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Carl Llewellyn
- Trainer
- Carl Llewellyn
- First run
- 28 Feb 09
- Last run
- 28 Feb 09
- First run for yard
- 10/11
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 9 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,222 | €0 | 112 | 28 Feb 09 | 21 Feb 12 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,222
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 112
- First run
- 28 Feb 09
- Last run
- 21 Feb 12
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hurdle | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| Chase | 5 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| NH Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Hurdle
- Race type
- Hurdle
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chase
- Race type
- Chase
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
NH Flat
- Race type
- NH Flat
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good to Soft | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Soft | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| Heavy | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good to Soft
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Soft
- Going
- Soft
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Heavy
- Going
- Heavy
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2m to 2m1f | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 2m6f to 3m1f | 8 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,222 | €0 |
2m to 2m1f
- Distance
- 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
2m6f to 3m1f
- Distance
- 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 8
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,222
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Newbury | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Uttoxeter | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| Exeter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| Ffos Las | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Leicester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Taunton | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Towcester | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Newbury
- Course
- Newbury
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Uttoxeter
- Course
- Uttoxeter
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Exeter
- Course
- Exeter
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Ffos Las
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Leicester
- Course
- Leicester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Taunton
- Course
- Taunton
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Towcester
- Course
- Towcester
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| Class 5 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 |
Class 3
- Class
- Class 3
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| February | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| March | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| November | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
March
- Month
- March
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
November
- Month
- November
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Richard Johnson | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Paddy Brennan | 2 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| Chris Davies | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| David England | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Robert L Butler | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Tom O'Brien | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Richard Johnson
- Jockey
- Richard Johnson
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Paddy Brennan
- Jockey
- Paddy Brennan
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Chris Davies
- Jockey
- Chris Davies
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
David England
- Jockey
- David England
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Robert L Butler
- Jockey
- Robert L Butler
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tom O'Brien
- Jockey
- Tom O'Brien
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Philip Hobbs | 5 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| Nigel Twiston-Davies | 3 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 | ||
| Carl Llewellyn | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Philip Hobbs
- Trainer
- Philip Hobbs
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Trainer
- Nigel Twiston-Davies
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Carl Llewellyn
- Trainer
- Carl Llewellyn
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 9 | 0 | 1 | 1 | £1,222 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,222
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 4 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £334 | €0 | ||
| 31 to 60 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Over a year | 1 | 0 | 1 | 0 | £888 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £334
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
31 to 60 days
- Days since last run
- 31 to 60 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Over a year
- Days since last run
- Over a year
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 1
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £888
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchFlemensfirth (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
- Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchPrudent Princess (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sirePuissance (GB)
- Dam's damPrincess Story (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Princess Story (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
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Breeding card
HorseNot So Prudent (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2004
SireFlemensfirth (USA)
DamPrudent Princess (GB)
DamsirePuissance (GB)
Sire's sireAlleged (USA)
Sire's damEtheldreda (USA)
2nd damPrincess Story (GB)
Dam's produce0 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingZipadea (IRE)
Female line
- Prudent Princess (GB) · by Puissance (GB) · 0 winners from 5 runners
- Princess Story (GB) · 1 winners from 7 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flemensfirth (USA) | Prudent Princess (GB) | Puissance (GB) | gelding | Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f | Flat 6.8f · NH 2m2f |
Flemensfirth (USA)
- Damsire
- Puissance (GB)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 15.8f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.8f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Flemensfirth (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 18,777 | 2,194 | 5,528 | 9 | 0 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f | 5,257 | 619 | 1,517 | 8 | 0 | ||
| On Heavy going | 3,211 | 370 | 965 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 2m6f to 3m1f on Heavy going | 895 | 101 | 251 | 3 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 18,777
- Wins
- 2,194
- Placed
- 5,528
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 9
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f
- Runs
- 5,257
- Wins
- 619
- Placed
- 1,517
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 8
- This horse wins
- 0
On Heavy going
- Condition
- On Heavy going
- Runs
- 3,211
- Wins
- 370
- Placed
- 965
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m6f to 3m1f on Heavy going
- Condition
- At 2m6f to 3m1f on Heavy going
- Runs
- 895
- Wins
- 101
- Placed
- 251
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Flemensfirth (USA) × Puissance mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 9 | 0 | 2 | £1,222 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,222
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Not So Prudent (IRE) | 9 | 0 | 0 | £1,222 | €0 |
Not So Prudent (IRE)
- Horse
- Not So Prudent (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £1,222
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 95 | 112 | 95 | 4 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 95
- Highest OR
- 112
- Lowest OR
- 95
- Rated runs
- 4
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 21 Feb 12 | Taunton | NH | 95 | -3 | 4/13 |
| 29 Jan 12 | Ffos Las | NH | 98 | -2 | PU/11 |
| 1 Jan 12 | Exeter | NH | 100 | -12 | 3/8 |
| 14 Dec 11 | Newbury | NH | 112 | - | PU/10 |
- 4/1321 Feb 12 · Taunton
All fields
- Date
- 21 Feb 12
- Course
- Taunton
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 95
- Change
- -3
- Pos
- 4/13
- PU/1129 Jan 12 · Ffos Las
All fields
- Date
- 29 Jan 12
- Course
- Ffos Las
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 98
- Change
- -2
- Pos
- PU/11
- 3/81 Jan 12 · Exeter
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jan 12
- Course
- Exeter
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 100
- Change
- -12
- Pos
- 3/8
- PU/1014 Dec 11 · Newbury
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 11
- Course
- Newbury
- Code
- NH
- OR
- 112
- Change
- -
- Pos
- PU/10
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 95 | 95 | 0 | 112 | -17 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Current OR
- 95
- OR last run
- 95
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 112
- v highest
- -17
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Prudent Princess (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Florida Son (GB)
- Zipadea (IRE)0W · 4R
By King Luthier (GB)
- My Own Star (IRE)0W · 14R
By Bach (IRE)
- Bach To Back (IRE)0W · 7R
By Dr Massini (IRE)
- Loukaja (IRE)0W · 11R
Female line
- 1Prudent Princess (GB) · by Puissance (GB)
- 2Princess Story (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Not So Prudent foaled?
Not So Prudent (IRE) was foaled in 2004.
Who are the sire and dam of Not So Prudent?
Not So Prudent (IRE) is by Flemensfirth (USA) out of Prudent Princess (GB), a daughter of Puissance (GB).
Who trained Not So Prudent?
Not So Prudent (IRE) was trained by Philip Hobbs and owned by Lady Blyth at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for 2 other trainers.
What is Not So Prudent's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Not So Prudent (IRE) ran 9 times without winning.
What was Not So Prudent's official rating?
Not So Prudent (IRE) was last officially rated 95 over jumps (career high 112).
Is Not So Prudent still racing?
Not So Prudent (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 21 February 2012 at Taunton in the Bathwick Tyres Bridgwater Handicap Hurdle, finishing 4th of 13, and has not run there since.
What is Not So Prudent's record at Newbury?
Not So Prudent (IRE) ran most often at Newbury, with no wins from 2 runs there.
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