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Horse profile

Never Say Goodbye

Petong (GB) × Farewell Letter (USA) (Arts And Letters (USA))
Sex
mare
Foaled
1995
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
19 Dec 2000, Folkestone (12/13)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
1112

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
19 Dec 00Folkestone12/1333/1distC HarrisBill TurnerWeatherbys 'Stars of Tomorrow' Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class HClass 6NH Flat2m1½fHeavy10-7Zero Risk (IRE)£1,6634320/12
14 Oct 99Taunton11/1316/1distJ PowerBill TurnerHydroxylamine Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class HClass 6NH Flat2m½fGood to Firm10-6Brave Dream (IRE)£1,700-0/10
  • 12/1319 Dec 00 · Folkestone33/1

    Weatherbys 'Stars of Tomorrow' Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H

    Class 62m1½fHeavy

    All fields
    Date
    19 Dec 00
    Course
    Folkestone
    Pos
    12/13
    SP
    33/1
    Btn
    dist
    Jockey
    C Harris
    Race
    Weatherbys 'Stars of Tomorrow' Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m1½f
    Going
    Heavy
    Wgt
    10-7
    Winner / 2nd
    Zero Risk (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £1,663
    Days
    432
    Future form
    0/12
  • 11/1314 Oct 99 · Taunton16/1

    Hydroxylamine Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H

    Class 62m½fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    14 Oct 99
    Course
    Taunton
    Pos
    11/13
    SP
    16/1
    Btn
    dist
    Jockey
    J Power
    Race
    Hydroxylamine Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    10-6
    Winner / 2nd
    Brave Dream (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £1,700
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/10

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Bill Turner14 Oct 9919 Dec 0011/1320000.0%0.0%£0€0
Bill Turner
First run
14 Oct 99
Last run
19 Dec 00
First run for yard
11/13
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€014 Oct 9919 Dec 00
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
14 Oct 99
Last run
19 Dec 00

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchPetong (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. SirePetong (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchFarewell Letter (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. DamFarewell Letter (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireArts And Letters (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Petong (GB)
Farewell Letter (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Arts And Letters (USA)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseNever Say Goodbye (GB)
Sexmare
Foaled1995
SirePetong (GB)
DamFarewell Letter (USA)
DamsireArts And Letters (USA)
Dam's produce3 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingParting Moment (USA)

Female line

  1. Farewell Letter (USA) · 3 winners from 5 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Petong (GB)Farewell Letter (USA)Arts And Letters (USA)mareFlat 7.0f · NH 2m2fFlat 11.6f · NH 2m2f
Petong (GB)
Sex
mare
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.0f · NH 2m2f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.6f · NH 2m2f

Progeny of Petong (GB) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs927421454.5%15.6%20
At 2m to 2m1f60223933.8%15.4%10
On Good to firm or firmer going33722596.5%17.5%10
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going20912395.7%18.7%10
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
927
Wins
42
Placed
145
Win %
4.5%
Place %
15.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
602
Wins
23
Placed
93
Win %
3.8%
Place %
15.4%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
On Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
On Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
337
Wins
22
Placed
59
Win %
6.5%
Place %
17.5%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to firm or firmer going
Runs
209
Wins
12
Placed
39
Win %
5.7%
Place %
18.7%
This horse runs
1
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Petong (GB) × Arts And Letters mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%02000.0%£0€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Never Say Goodbye (GB)200£0€0
Never Say Goodbye (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Farewell Letter (USA)

G1 winners
0
Produce
3 winners from 5 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Petong (GB) out of Farewell Letter (USA) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By The Minstrel (CAN)

By Trempolino (USA)

By Polar Falcon (USA)

By Mystiko (USA)

Female line

  1. 1Farewell Letter (USA)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

When was Never Say Goodbye foaled?

Never Say Goodbye (GB) was foaled in 1995.

Who are the sire and dam of Never Say Goodbye?

Never Say Goodbye (GB) is by Petong (GB) out of Farewell Letter (USA), a daughter of Arts And Letters (USA).

Who trained Never Say Goodbye?

Never Say Goodbye (GB) was trained by Bill Turner and owned by Bill Brown at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Never Say Goodbye's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Never Say Goodbye (GB) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Never Say Goodbye still racing?

Never Say Goodbye (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 19 December 2000 at Folkestone in the Weatherbys 'Stars of Tomorrow' Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H, finishing 12th of 13, and has not run there since.

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