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Meetingofthewaters (FR) silks

Horse profile

Meetingofthewaters (FR)

Bathyrhon (GER) × Roselia Rouge (FR) (Bonbon Rose (FR))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
2020
Colour
bay

See also: Meetingofthewaters (IRE) · W P Mullins · 23 runs · 4 wins

Highest OR
87
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£486 GB
Last official rating
87 (Jumps)
Last run (GB & IRE)
5 Sep 2025, Bangor-on-Dee (9/9)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
4659

Meetingofthewaters has no declared runs or entries in Britain or Ireland at the moment.

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
5 Sep 25Bangor-on-Dee9/925/1distWilliam MaggsDonald McCainGenesis Wealth Management Novices' Limited Handicap HurdleClass 5Hurdle2m½fGood10-1387Dreams Fled Away (IRE)£4,225460/6
21 Jul 25Cartmel5/766/123½Theo GillardDonald McCainFurness Building Society 160th Anniversary Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m1fSoft11-4-At Vimeiro (GER)£4,030300/4
21 Jun 25Bangor-on-Dee6/850/1distTheo GillardDonald McCainBangor-On-Dee Novices' HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m½fGood11-2-Solent Gateway (IRE)£4,753150/4
6 Jun 25Bangor-on-Dee4/828/1distTheo GillardDonald McCainBangor-On-Dee Maiden HurdleClass 4Hurdle2m½fGood11-4-Solent Gateway (IRE)£4,225-1/7
  • 9/95 Sep 25 · Bangor-on-Dee25/1

    Genesis Wealth Management Novices' Limited Handicap Hurdle

    Class 52m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    5 Sep 25
    Pos
    9/9
    SP
    25/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Genesis Wealth Management Novices' Limited Handicap Hurdle
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    10-13
    OR
    87
    Winner prize
    £4,225
    Days
    46
    Future form
    0/6
  • 5/721 Jul 25 · Cartmel66/1

    Furness Building Society 160th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m1fSoft

    All fields
    Date
    21 Jul 25
    Course
    Cartmel
    Pos
    5/7
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    23½
    Race
    Furness Building Society 160th Anniversary Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m1f
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    At Vimeiro (GER)
    Winner prize
    £4,030
    Days
    30
    Future form
    0/4
  • 6/821 Jun 25 · Bangor-on-Dee50/1

    Bangor-On-Dee Novices' Hurdle

    Class 42m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    21 Jun 25
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Bangor-On-Dee Novices' Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-2
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £4,753
    Days
    15
    Future form
    0/4
  • 4/86 Jun 25 · Bangor-on-Dee28/1

    Bangor-On-Dee Maiden Hurdle

    Class 42m½fGood

    All fields
    Date
    6 Jun 25
    Pos
    4/8
    SP
    28/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Bangor-On-Dee Maiden Hurdle
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Hurdle
    Dist
    2m½f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    11-4
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £4,225
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/7

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
6 Jun 25Bangor-on-DeeBangor-On-Dee Maiden Hurdle4/8Solent Gateway (IRE)121 Jun 25Bangor-on-DeeBangor-On-Dee Novices' Hurdle

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Donald McCain6 Jun 255 Sep 254/887878740000.0%0.0%£486€0
Donald McCain
First run
6 Jun 25
Last run
5 Sep 25
First run for yard
4/8
OR first run
87
OR last run
87
Best OR
87
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
National Hunt40000.0%0.0%£486€0876 Jun 255 Sep 25
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
87
First run
6 Jun 25
Last run
5 Sep 25

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle40000.0%0.0%£486€0
Hurdle
Race type
Hurdle
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good30000.0%0.0%£486€0
Soft10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Soft
Going
Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f40000.0%0.0%£486€0
2m to 2m1f
Distance
2m to 2m1f
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Bangor-on-Dee30000.0%0.0%£486€0
Cartmel10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Bangor-on-Dee
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Cartmel
Course
Cartmel
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 430000.0%0.0%£486€0
Class 510000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners30000.0%0.0%£486€0
9 to 12 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
June20000.0%0.0%£486€0
July10000.0%0.0%£0€0
September10000.0%0.0%£0€0
June
Month
June
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
September
Month
September
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Theo Gillard30000.0%0.0%£486€0
William Maggs10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Theo Gillard
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
William Maggs
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Donald McCain40000.0%0.0%£486€0
Donald McCain
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear40000.0%0.0%£486€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£486€0
15 to 30 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
31 to 60 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchBathyrhon (GER)

Parent · 1

  1. SireBathyrhon (GER)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireMonsun (GER)
  2. Sire's damBe My Lady (GER)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchRoselia Rouge (FR)

Parent · 1

  1. DamRoselia Rouge (FR)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireBonbon Rose (FR)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Bathyrhon (GER)
Roselia Rouge (FR)
Monsun (GER)
Be My Lady (GER)
Bonbon Rose (FR)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseMeetingofthewaters (FR)
Sexgelding
Foaled2020
SireBathyrhon (GER)
DamRoselia Rouge (FR)
DamsireBonbon Rose (FR)
Sire's sireMonsun (GER)
Sire's damBe My Lady (GER)
Dam's produce0 winners from 2 runners
Notable siblingDeja Rouge (FR)

Female line

  1. Roselia Rouge (FR) · 0 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireBreederFoaledColourSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Bathyrhon (GER)Roselia Rouge (FR)Bonbon Rose (FR)E A R L Elevage Des Loges28 May 20baygeldingNH 2m2½fNH 2m3½f
Bathyrhon (GER)
Breeder
E A R L Elevage Des Loges
Foaled
28 May 20
Colour
bay
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
NH 2m2½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Bathyrhon (GER) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs4856014612.4%30.1%40
At 2m to 2m1f230317213.5%31.3%40
On Good going219226310.0%28.8%30
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going105143313.3%31.4%30
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
485
Wins
60
Placed
146
Win %
12.4%
Place %
30.1%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
230
Wins
31
Placed
72
Win %
13.5%
Place %
31.3%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
On Good going
Condition
On Good going
Runs
219
Wins
22
Placed
63
Win %
10.0%
Place %
28.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
Runs
105
Wins
14
Placed
33
Win %
13.3%
Place %
31.4%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Bathyrhon (GER) × Bonbon Rose (FR) mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt100.0%04000.0%£486€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Meetingofthewaters (FR)400£486€0
Meetingofthewaters (FR)
Runs
4
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£486
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
National Hunt8787871
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
87
Highest OR
87
Lowest OR
87
Rated runs
1

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORPos
5 Sep 25Bangor-on-DeeNH879/9

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
National Hunt87870870
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Current OR
87
OR last run
87
Change
0
Highest OR
87
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Roselia Rouge (FR)

G1 winners
0
Produce
0 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Bathyrhon (GER) out of Roselia Rouge (FR) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By No Risk At All (FR)

By Masked Marvel (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Roselia Rouge (FR)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

In brief

How old is Meetingofthewaters?

Meetingofthewaters (FR), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 28 May 2020 and is 6 years old.

Who are the sire and dam of Meetingofthewaters?

Meetingofthewaters (FR) is by Bathyrhon (GER) out of Roselia Rouge (FR), a daughter of Bonbon Rose (FR), and was bred by E A R L Elevage Des Loges.

Who trained Meetingofthewaters?

Meetingofthewaters (FR) was trained by Donald McCain and owned by Birkdale Bloodstock at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Meetingofthewaters' race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Meetingofthewaters (FR) ran 4 times without winning.

What was Meetingofthewaters' official rating?

Meetingofthewaters (FR) was last officially rated 87 over jumps (also the career high).

Is Meetingofthewaters still racing?

Meetingofthewaters (FR) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 5 September 2025 at Bangor-on-Dee in the Genesis Wealth Management Novices' Limited Handicap Hurdle, finishing 9th of 9, and has not run there since.

What is Meetingofthewaters' record at Bangor-on-Dee?

Meetingofthewaters (FR) ran most often at Bangor-on-Dee, with no wins from 3 runs there.

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