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Horse profile

Hidden Depth

Classic Cliche (IRE) × Rochestown Lass (GB) (Deep Run (GB))
Sex
gelding
Foaled
1999
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£0
Last run (GB & IRE)
16 Jan 2004, Huntingdon (18/19)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
1318

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
16 Jan 04Huntingdon18/1966/1distRodi GreenePaul DaltonManny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…Class 6NH Flat2mSoft11-4Ferimon (GB)£1,950211/18
26 Dec 03Towcester13/1320/1distA HoneyballPaul DaltonGet Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class HClass 6NH Flat2mSoft10-13Lazerito (IRE)£2,086-1/12
  • 18/1916 Jan 04 · Huntingdon66/1

    Manny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…

    Class 62mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    16 Jan 04
    Pos
    18/19
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Manny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    11-4
    Winner / 2nd
    Ferimon (GB)
    Winner prize
    £1,950
    Days
    21
    Future form
    1/18
  • 13/1326 Dec 03 · Towcester20/1

    Get Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H

    Class 62mSoft

    All fields
    Date
    26 Dec 03
    Course
    Towcester
    Pos
    13/13
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    dist
    Race
    Get Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    NH Flat
    Dist
    2m
    Going
    Soft
    Wgt
    10-13
    Winner / 2nd
    Lazerito (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £2,086
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/12

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
16 Jan 04HuntingdonManny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…18/19Lady Harriet (GB)1516 Feb 04PlumptonJonathan Higgins 50th Birthday Mares' Only Novices' Hurdle Class E
26 Dec 03TowcesterGet Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H13/13Lazerito (IRE)117 Feb 04FolkestoneCome Racing At Folkestone Maiden Hurdle Class F
  • 18/1916 Jan 04 · Huntingdon

    Manny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…

    All fields
    Date
    16 Jan 04
    Race
    Manny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Cl…
    This horse
    18/19
    Winner next time
    Lady Harriet (GB)
    Their pos
    15
    Won on
    16 Feb 04
    Race won
    Jonathan Higgins 50th Birthday Mares' Only Novices' Hurdle Class E
  • 13/1326 Dec 03 · Towcester

    Get Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H

    All fields
    Date
    26 Dec 03
    Course
    Towcester
    Race
    Get Better Odds @ ggbet.com Intermediate Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H
    This horse
    13/13
    Winner next time
    Lazerito (IRE)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    17 Feb 04
    At
    Folkestone
    Race won
    Come Racing At Folkestone Maiden Hurdle Class F

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Paul Dalton26 Dec 0316 Jan 0413/1320000.0%0.0%£0€0
Paul Dalton
First run
26 Dec 03
Last run
16 Jan 04
First run for yard
13/13
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)First runLast run
National Hunt20000.0%0.0%£0€026 Dec 0316 Jan 04
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
First run
26 Dec 03
Last run
16 Jan 04

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchClassic Cliche (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. SireClassic Cliche (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireSalse (USA)
  2. Sire's damPato (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchRochestown Lass (GB)

Parent · 1

  1. DamRochestown Lass (GB)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireDeep Run (GB)
  2. Dam's damKnockatippaun (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Classic Cliche (IRE)
Rochestown Lass (GB)
Salse (USA)
Pato (GB)
Deep Run (GB)
Knockatippaun (GB)
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseHidden Depth (GB)
Sexgelding
Foaled1999
SireClassic Cliche (IRE)
DamRochestown Lass (GB)
DamsireDeep Run (GB)
Sire's sireSalse (USA)
Sire's damPato (GB)
2nd damKnockatippaun (GB)
Dam's produce1 winners from 3 runners
Notable siblingLeading Light (GB)

Female line

  1. Rochestown Lass (GB) · by Deep Run (GB) · 1 winners from 3 runners
  2. Knockatippaun (GB) · 2 winners from 2 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Classic Cliche (IRE)Rochestown Lass (GB)Deep Run (GB)geldingFlat 11.4f · NH 2m4½fFlat 12.5f · NH 2m3½f
Classic Cliche (IRE)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.4f · NH 2m4½f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 12.5f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Classic Cliche (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All National Hunt runs3,3482618247.8%24.6%20
At 2m to 2m1f988712017.2%20.3%20
On Soft going752521806.9%23.9%20
At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going23315506.4%21.5%20
All National Hunt runs
Condition
All National Hunt runs
Runs
3,348
Wins
261
Placed
824
Win %
7.8%
Place %
24.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f
Runs
988
Wins
71
Placed
201
Win %
7.2%
Place %
20.3%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
On Soft going
Condition
On Soft going
Runs
752
Wins
52
Placed
180
Win %
6.9%
Place %
23.9%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0
At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going
Condition
At 2m to 2m1f on Soft going
Runs
233
Wins
15
Placed
50
Win %
6.4%
Place %
21.5%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Classic Cliche (IRE) × Deep Run mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt300.0%013000.0%£0€0
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
3
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
13
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Leading Light (GB)100£0€0
Hidden Depth (GB)200£0€0
School Class (GB)1000£0€0
Leading Light (GB)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Hidden Depth (GB)
Runs
2
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
School Class (GB)
Runs
10
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Rochestown Lass (GB)

G1 winners
0
Produce
1 winners from 3 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Le Moss (IRE)

Female line

  1. 1Rochestown Lass (GB) · by Deep Run (GB)
  2. 2Knockatippaun (GB)

Notable relatives

Nephew (out of a sibling)

View full Knockatippaun family

In brief

When was Hidden Depth foaled?

Hidden Depth (GB) was foaled in 1999.

Who are the sire and dam of Hidden Depth?

Hidden Depth (GB) is by Classic Cliche (IRE) out of Rochestown Lass (GB), a daughter of Deep Run (GB).

Who trained Hidden Depth?

Hidden Depth (GB) was trained by Paul Dalton and owned by Miss Charlotte A I Perkins at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Hidden Depth's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Hidden Depth (GB) ran 2 times without winning.

Is Hidden Depth still racing?

Hidden Depth (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 16 January 2004 at Huntingdon in the Manny Bernstein Hedging For Bookmakers Maiden Open National Hunt Flat Race Class H, finishing 18th of 19, and has not run there since.

Is Hidden Depth related to any top horses?

Hidden Depth (GB)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Kayf Moss (GB) (nephew, Grade 2 winner), from the Knockatippaun (GB) family.

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