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Horse profile

Had No Choice

Heron Island (IRE) × Jackeen'S (IRE) (Archway (IRE))

Sex: gelding
Foaled: 2002

Record (GB & IRE): 0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE): €3,553 IRE
Last run (GB & IRE): 22 Aug 2008, Kilbeggan (IRE) (3/14)
Last win (GB & IRE): Never won

Recent form

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Form

Race record

Date	Course	Pos	SP	Btn	Jockey	Trainer	Race	Class	Type	Dist	Going	Wgt	Winner / 2nd	Winner prize	Days	Future form
22 Aug 08	Kilbeggan (IRE)	3/14	6/1	12	Niall P Madden	Joseph Crowley	Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)	Non-handicap (unclassified)	Hurdle	2m	Soft	11-4	Vital Plot (USA)	€6,565	18	1/11
4 Aug 08	Naas (IRE)	3/20	3/1	17	Mr P Roche	Joseph Crowley	Go Racing In Kildare INH Flat Race	Non-handicap (unclassified)	NH Flat	2m3f	Good to Yielding	11-9	Derinlaur (IRE)	€6,910	14	0/16
21 Jul 08	Ballinrobe (IRE)	3/14	7/2	3	Mr P Roche	Joseph Crowley	A.I.B. Westport INH Flat Race	Non-handicap (unclassified)	NH Flat	2m	Good	11-9	Otay Kawn (IRE)	€6,219	18	0/8
3 Jul 08	Bellewstown (IRE)	2/13	8/1	1½	Mr P Roche	Joseph Crowley	McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)	Non-handicap (unclassified)	NH Flat	2m1f	Good	11-9	Pops Hero (IRE)	€6,565	-	1/7

3/1422 Aug 08 · Kilbeggan (IRE)6/1
Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mSoft
All fields
Date
22 Aug 08
Course
Kilbeggan (IRE)
Pos
3/14
SP
6/1
Btn
12
Jockey
Niall P Madden
Trainer
Joseph Crowley
Race
Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
Hurdle
Dist
2m
Going
Soft
Wgt
11-4
Winner / 2nd
Vital Plot (USA)
Winner prize
€6,565
Days
18
Future form
1/11
3/204 Aug 08 · Naas (IRE)3/1
Go Racing In Kildare INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m3fGood to Yielding
All fields
Date
4 Aug 08
Course
Naas (IRE)
Pos
3/20
SP
3/1
Btn
17
Jockey
Mr P Roche
Trainer
Joseph Crowley
Race
Go Racing In Kildare INH Flat Race
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
NH Flat
Dist
2m3f
Going
Good to Yielding
Wgt
11-9
Winner / 2nd
Derinlaur (IRE)
Winner prize
€6,910
Days
14
Future form
0/16
3/1421 Jul 08 · Ballinrobe (IRE)7/2
A.I.B. Westport INH Flat Race
Non-handicap (unclassified)2mGood
All fields
Date
21 Jul 08
Course
Ballinrobe (IRE)
Pos
3/14
SP
7/2
Btn
3
Jockey
Mr P Roche
Trainer
Joseph Crowley
Race
A.I.B. Westport INH Flat Race
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
NH Flat
Dist
2m
Going
Good
Wgt
11-9
Winner / 2nd
Otay Kawn (IRE)
Winner prize
€6,219
Days
18
Future form
0/8
2/133 Jul 08 · Bellewstown (IRE)8/1
McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)
Non-handicap (unclassified)2m1fGood
All fields
Date
3 Jul 08
Course
Bellewstown (IRE)
Pos
2/13
SP
8/1
Btn
1½
Jockey
Mr P Roche
Trainer
Joseph Crowley
Race
McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)
Class
Non-handicap (unclassified)
Type
NH Flat
Dist
2m1f
Going
Good
Wgt
11-9
Winner / 2nd
Pops Hero (IRE)
Winner prize
€6,565
Days
-
Future form
1/7

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

Date	Course	Race	This horse	Winner next time	Their pos	Won on	At	Race won
22 Aug 08	Kilbeggan (IRE)	Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)	3/14	Vital Plot (USA)	1	29 Aug 08	Down Royal (IRE)	Duke Of York Hurdle
3 Jul 08	Bellewstown (IRE)	McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)	2/13	Watchurhouse (IRE)	3	19 Oct 08	Cork (IRE)	Alchemy Properties (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race

3/1422 Aug 08 · Kilbeggan (IRE)
Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
All fields
Date
22 Aug 08
Course
Kilbeggan (IRE)
Race
Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle (Div I)
This horse
3/14
Winner next time
Vital Plot (USA)
Their pos
1
Won on
29 Aug 08
At
Down Royal (IRE)
Race won
Duke Of York Hurdle
2/133 Jul 08 · Bellewstown (IRE)
McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)
All fields
Date
3 Jul 08
Course
Bellewstown (IRE)
Race
McLoughlins Oil INH Flat Race (Div I)
This horse
2/13
Winner next time
Watchurhouse (IRE)
Their pos
3
Won on
19 Oct 08
At
Cork (IRE)
Race won
Alchemy Properties (Pro/Am) INH Flat Race

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

Trainer	First run	Last run	First run for yard	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Joseph Crowley	3 Jul 08	22 Aug 08	2/13	4	0	1	3	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€3,553

Joseph Crowley

Trainer: Joseph Crowley
First run: 3 Jul 08
Last run: 22 Aug 08
First run for yard: 2/13
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 3
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

Code	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)	First run	Last run
National Hunt	4	0	1	3	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€3,553	3 Jul 08	22 Aug 08

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 3
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553
First run: 3 Jul 08
Last run: 22 Aug 08

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race type	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Hurdle	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€675
NH Flat	3	0	1	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,879

Hurdle

Race type: Hurdle
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €675

NH Flat

Race type: NH Flat
Runs: 3
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,879

By going

Going	Runs	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Good	2	1	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,169
Good to Yielding	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€710
Soft	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€675

Good

Going: Good
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,169

Good to Yielding

Going: Good to Yielding
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €710

Soft

Going: Soft
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €675

By distance

Distance	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
2m to 2m1f	3	0	1	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,843
2m2f to 2m5f	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€710

2m to 2m1f

Distance: 2m to 2m1f
Runs: 3
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,843

2m2f to 2m5f

Distance: 2m2f to 2m5f
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €710

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

Course	Runs	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Ballinrobe (IRE)	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€639
Bellewstown (IRE)	1	1	0	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€1,530
Kilbeggan (IRE)	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€675
Naas (IRE)	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€710

Ballinrobe (IRE)

Course: Ballinrobe (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €639

Bellewstown (IRE)

Course: Bellewstown (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €1,530

Kilbeggan (IRE)

Course: Kilbeggan (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €675

Naas (IRE)

Course: Naas (IRE)
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €710

By class

Class	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Non-handicap (unclassified)	4	0	1	3	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€3,553

Non-handicap (unclassified)

Class: Non-handicap (unclassified)
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 3
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

Runners	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
13 to 16 runners	3	0	1	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,843
17+ runners	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€710

13 to 16 runners

Runners: 13 to 16 runners
Runs: 3
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,843

17+ runners

Runners: 17+ runners
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €710

By month

Month	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
July	2	0	1	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,169
August	2	0	0	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€1,385

July

Month: July
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,169

August

Month: August
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €1,385

By jockey

Jockey	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Mr P Roche	3	0	1	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€2,879
Niall P Madden	1	0	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€675

Mr P Roche

Jockey: Mr P Roche
Runs: 3
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €2,879

Niall P Madden

Jockey: Niall P Madden
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €675

By trainer

Trainer	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Joseph Crowley	4	0	1	3	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€3,553

Joseph Crowley

Trainer: Joseph Crowley
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 3
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553

By headgear

Headgear	Runs	Wins	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
No headgear	4	0	1	3	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€3,553

No headgear

Headgear: No headgear
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 3
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last run	Runs	2nd	3rd	Win %	Place %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run	1	1	0	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€1,530
8 to 14 days	1	0	1	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€710
15 to 30 days	2	0	2	0.0%	100.0%	£0	€1,314

Debut / no previous run

Days since last run: Debut / no previous run
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 1
3rd: 0
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €1,530

8 to 14 days

Days since last run: 8 to 14 days
Runs: 1
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 1
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €710

15 to 30 days

Days since last run: 15 to 30 days
Runs: 2
Wins: 0
2nd: 0
3rd: 2
Win %: 0.0%
Place %: 100.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €1,314

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Sire branchHeron Island (IRE)

Parent · 1

SireHeron Island (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Sire's sireShirley Heights (GB)
Sire's damDalawara (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

Sire's sire's sireNot traced
Sire's sire's damNot traced
Sire's dam's sireNot traced
Sire's dam's damNot traced

Dam branchJackeen'S (IRE)

Parent · 1

DamJackeen'S (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

Dam's sireArchway (IRE)
Dam's damBella Blue (GB)

Great-grandparents · 4

Dam's sire's sireNot traced
Dam's sire's damNot traced
Dam's dam's sireNot traced
Dam's dam's damNot traced

Heron Island (IRE)

Jackeen'S (IRE)

Shirley Heights (GB)

Dalawara (IRE)

Archway (IRE)

Bella Blue (GB)

Not traced

Breeding card

HorseHad No Choice (IRE)

Sexgelding

Foaled2002

SireHeron Island (IRE)

DamJackeen'S (IRE)

DamsireArchway (IRE)

Sire's sireShirley Heights (GB)

Sire's damDalawara (IRE)

2nd damBella Blue (GB)

Dam's produce0 winners from 2 runners

Notable siblingMartinstown Lady (IRE)

Female line

Jackeen'S (IRE) · by Archway (IRE) · 0 winners from 2 runners
Bella Blue (GB) · 0 winners from 8 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

Sire	Dam	Damsire	Sex	Sire's avg winning distance	Damsire's avg winning distance
Heron Island (IRE)	Jackeen'S (IRE)	Archway (IRE)	gelding	Flat 11.3f · NH 2m3½f	Flat 9.0f · NH 2m3½f

Heron Island (IRE)

Sire: Heron Island (IRE)
Dam: Jackeen'S (IRE)
Damsire: Archway (IRE)
Sex: gelding
Sire's avg winning distance: Flat 11.3f · NH 2m3½f
Damsire's avg winning distance: Flat 9.0f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Heron Island (IRE) in this horse's best conditions

Condition	Runs	Wins	Placed	Win %	Place %	This horse runs
All National Hunt runs	2,977	330	822	11.1%	27.6%	4
At 2m to 2m1f	1,116	119	316	10.7%	28.3%	3
On Good going	933	92	244	9.9%	26.2%	3
At 2m to 2m1f on Good going	302	37	86	12.3%	28.5%	2

All National Hunt runs

Condition: All National Hunt runs
Runs: 2,977
Wins: 330
Placed: 822
Win %: 11.1%
Place %: 27.6%
This horse runs: 4
This horse wins: 0

At 2m to 2m1f

Condition: At 2m to 2m1f
Runs: 1,116
Wins: 119
Placed: 316
Win %: 10.7%
Place %: 28.3%
This horse runs: 3
This horse wins: 0

On Good going

Condition: On Good going
Runs: 933
Wins: 92
Placed: 244
Win %: 9.9%
Place %: 26.2%
This horse runs: 3
This horse wins: 0

At 2m to 2m1f on Good going

Condition: At 2m to 2m1f on Good going
Runs: 302
Wins: 37
Placed: 86
Win %: 12.3%
Place %: 28.5%
This horse runs: 2
This horse wins: 0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Heron Island (IRE) × Archway mares (the cross)

Code	Runners	Winners	Winners %	Black-type winners	Runs	Wins	2nd/3rd	Win %	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
National Hunt	2	0	0.0%	0	20	0	9	0.0%	£0	€8,162

National Hunt

Code: National Hunt
Runners: 2
Winners: 0
Winners %: 0.0%
Black-type winners: 0
Runs: 20
Wins: 0
2nd/3rd: 9
Win %: 0.0%
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €8,162

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

Horse	Runs	Wins	Black-type wins	Prize GB (£)	Prize IRE (€)
Had No Choice (IRE)	4	0	0	£0	€3,553
Special Deal (IRE)	16	0	0	£0	€4,609

Had No Choice (IRE)

Horse: Had No Choice (IRE)
Runs: 4
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €3,553

Special Deal (IRE)

Horse: Special Deal (IRE)
Runs: 16
Wins: 0
Black-type wins: 0
Prize GB (£): £0
Prize IRE (€): €4,609

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Family

Dam summary

Jackeen'S (IRE)

G1 winners: 0
Produce: 0 winners from 2 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Heron Island (IRE) out of Jackeen'S (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Scribano (GB)

Martinstown Lady (IRE)0W · 3R

Female line

1Jackeen'S (IRE) · by Archway (IRE)
2Bella Blue (GB)

Notable relatives

No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.

View full Bella Blue family

In brief

When was Had No Choice foaled?

Had No Choice (IRE) was foaled in 2002.

Who are the sire and dam of Had No Choice?

Had No Choice (IRE) is by Heron Island (IRE) out of Jackeen'S (IRE), a daughter of Archway (IRE).

Who trained Had No Choice?

Had No Choice (IRE) was trained by Joseph Crowley and owned by John P McManus at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Had No Choice's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Had No Choice (IRE) ran 4 times without winning.

Is Had No Choice still racing?

Had No Choice (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 22 August 2008 at Kilbeggan (IRE) in the Donlon Development Ltd. (C & G) Maiden Hurdle, finishing 3rd of 14, and has not run there since.