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Great Orator (USA) silks

Horse profile

Great Orator

Sex
gelding
Foaled
2002
Highest OR
76
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 6 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£4,364 GB
Last official rating
76 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
21 Aug 2006, Windsor (3/12)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
235263

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
21 Aug 06Windsor3/12100/302½Dane O'NeillHenry CandyVC Casino.com Maiden StakesClass 5Flat Turf1mGood9-976Star Crowned (USA)£3,239300/9
22 Jul 06Newbury6/85/2F5¼Dane O'NeillHenry CandySporting Index HandicapClass 3Flat Turf1m2fGood9-376Inchloch (GB)£7,790190/7
3 Jul 06Windsor2/85/2JnkDane O'NeillHenry Candytotesportcasino.com HandicapClass 4Flat Turf1m2fGood to Firm9-1074Cusoon (GB)£5,829170/7
16 Jun 06Nottingham5/1614/13¾Fergus SweeneyHenry Candyvisitnottingham.com Maiden StakesClass 5Flat Turf1mGood to Firm9-10-Minister Of State (GB)£3,2392372/14
22 Oct 05Newbury3/153/1F2¼Dane O'NeillHenry Candycantorspreadfair.com Maiden StakesClass 5Flat Turf1m2fGood to Soft9-0-Top Man Tee (GB)£3,991120/11
10 Oct 05Windsor2/1712/1hdDane O'NeillHenry CandyWindsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden StakesClass 5Flat Turf1m2fGood9-0-Breathing Fire (GB)£4,511-1/14
  • 3/1221 Aug 06 · Windsor100/30

    VC Casino.com Maiden Stakes

    Class 51mGood

    All fields
    Date
    21 Aug 06
    Course
    Windsor
    Pos
    3/12
    SP
    100/30
    Btn
    2½
    Race
    VC Casino.com Maiden Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-9
    OR
    76
    Winner / 2nd
    Star Crowned (USA)
    Winner prize
    £3,239
    Days
    30
    Future form
    0/9
  • 6/822 Jul 06 · Newbury5/2F

    Sporting Index Handicap

    Class 31m2fGood

    All fields
    Date
    22 Jul 06
    Course
    Newbury
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    5/2F
    Btn
    5¼
    Race
    Sporting Index Handicap
    Class
    Class 3
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m2f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-3
    OR
    76
    Winner / 2nd
    Inchloch (GB)
    Winner prize
    £7,790
    Days
    19
    Future form
    0/7
  • 2/83 Jul 06 · Windsor5/2J

    totesportcasino.com Handicap

    Class 41m2fGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    3 Jul 06
    Course
    Windsor
    Pos
    2/8
    SP
    5/2J
    Btn
    nk
    Race
    totesportcasino.com Handicap
    Class
    Class 4
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m2f
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    9-10
    OR
    74
    Winner / 2nd
    Cusoon (GB)
    Winner prize
    £5,829
    Days
    17
    Future form
    0/7
  • 5/1616 Jun 06 · Nottingham14/1

    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes

    Class 51mGood to Firm

    All fields
    Date
    16 Jun 06
    Pos
    5/16
    SP
    14/1
    Btn
    3¾
    Race
    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m
    Going
    Good to Firm
    Wgt
    9-10
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £3,239
    Days
    237
    Future form
    2/14
  • 3/1522 Oct 05 · Newbury3/1F

    cantorspreadfair.com Maiden Stakes

    Class 51m2fGood to Soft

    All fields
    Date
    22 Oct 05
    Course
    Newbury
    Pos
    3/15
    SP
    3/1F
    Btn
    2¼
    Race
    cantorspreadfair.com Maiden Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m2f
    Going
    Good to Soft
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Top Man Tee (GB)
    Winner prize
    £3,991
    Days
    12
    Future form
    0/11
  • 2/1710 Oct 05 · Windsor12/1

    Windsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden Stakes

    Class 51m2fGood

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 05
    Course
    Windsor
    Pos
    2/17
    SP
    12/1
    Btn
    hd
    Race
    Windsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat Turf
    Dist
    1m2f
    Going
    Good
    Wgt
    9-0
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £4,511
    Days
    -
    Future form
    1/14

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
16 Jun 06Nottinghamvisitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes5/16Minister Of State (GB)14 Jul 06ThirskCarleton Furniture Handicap
16 Jun 06Nottinghamvisitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes5/16Jihaaz (IRE)226 Jun 06ChepstowWestern Daily Press Maiden Stakes
10 Oct 05WindsorWindsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden Stakes2/17Buck Whaley (IRE)135 Nov 05Southwell (AW)betfredcasino.com Banded Stakes
  • 5/1616 Jun 06 · Nottingham

    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    16 Jun 06
    Race
    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes
    This horse
    5/16
    Winner next time
    Minister Of State (GB)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    4 Jul 06
    Race won
    Carleton Furniture Handicap
  • 5/1616 Jun 06 · Nottingham

    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    16 Jun 06
    Race
    visitnottingham.com Maiden Stakes
    This horse
    5/16
    Winner next time
    Jihaaz (IRE)
    Their pos
    2
    Won on
    26 Jun 06
    Race won
    Western Daily Press Maiden Stakes
  • 2/1710 Oct 05 · Windsor

    Windsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    10 Oct 05
    Course
    Windsor
    Race
    Windsor Fireworks Extravaganza Saturday 5th November Maiden Stakes
    This horse
    2/17
    Winner next time
    Buck Whaley (IRE)
    Their pos
    13
    Won on
    5 Nov 05
    At
    Southwell (AW)
    Race won
    betfredcasino.com Banded Stakes

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Henry Candy10 Oct 0521 Aug 062/1774767660220.0%66.7%£4,364€0
Henry Candy
First run
10 Oct 05
Last run
21 Aug 06
First run for yard
2/17
OR first run
74
OR last run
76
Best OR
76
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat60220.0%66.7%£4,364€07610 Oct 0521 Aug 06
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
76
First run
10 Oct 05
Last run
21 Aug 06

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat Turf60220.0%66.7%£4,364€0
Flat Turf
Race type
Flat Turf
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Good to Firm20100.0%50.0%£1,734€0
Good30110.0%66.7%£2,016€0
Good to Soft10010.0%100.0%£614€0
Good to Firm
Going
Good to Firm
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,734
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good
Going
Good
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,016
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Good to Soft
Going
Good to Soft
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£614
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
7f to 1m20010.0%50.0%£482€0
9f to 11f40210.0%75.0%£3,883€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9f to 11f
Distance
9f to 11f
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,883
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Windsor30210.0%100.0%£3,604€0
Newbury20010.0%50.0%£760€0
Nottingham10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Windsor
Course
Windsor
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£3,604
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Newbury
Course
Newbury
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£760
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Nottingham
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 310000.0%0.0%£146€0
Class 410100.0%100.0%£1,734€0
Class 540120.0%75.0%£2,484€0
Class 3
Class
Class 3
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£146
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 4
Class
Class 4
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,734
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
75.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,484
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
6 to 8 runners20100.0%50.0%£1,881€0
13 to 16 runners20010.0%50.0%£614€0
9 to 12 runners10010.0%100.0%£482€0
17+ runners10100.0%100.0%£1,388€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,881
Prize IRE (€)
€0
13 to 16 runners
Runners
13 to 16 runners
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£614
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0
17+ runners
Runners
17+ runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,388
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
June10000.0%0.0%£0€0
July20100.0%50.0%£1,881€0
August10010.0%100.0%£482€0
October20110.0%100.0%£2,002€0
June
Month
June
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
July
Month
July
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
50.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,881
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£482
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£2,002
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Dane O'Neill50220.0%80.0%£4,364€0
Fergus Sweeney10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Dane O'Neill
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
80.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Fergus Sweeney
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Henry Candy60220.0%66.7%£4,364€0
Henry Candy
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear60220.0%66.7%£4,364€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd
2
3rd
2
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10100.0%100.0%£1,388€0
8 to 14 days10010.0%100.0%£614€0
15 to 30 days30110.0%66.7%£2,362€0
121 to 365 days10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£1,388
Prize IRE (€)
€0
8 to 14 days
Days since last run
8 to 14 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
100.0%
Prize GB (£)
£614
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
1
3rd
1
Win %
0.0%
Place %
66.7%
Prize GB (£)
£2,362
Prize IRE (€)
€0
121 to 365 days
Days since last run
121 to 365 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchBahri (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. SireBahri (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireRiverman (USA)
  2. Sire's damWasnah (USA)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchVerbal Intrigue (USA)

Parent · 1

  1. DamVerbal Intrigue (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireDahar (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseGreat Orator (USA)
Sexgelding
Foaled2002
SireBahri (USA)
DamVerbal Intrigue (USA)
DamsireDahar (USA)
Sire's sireRiverman (USA)
Sire's damWasnah (USA)
Dam's produce4 winners from 5 runners
Notable siblingNew Deerfield (GB)

Female line

  1. Verbal Intrigue (USA) · 4 winners from 5 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Bahri (USA)Verbal Intrigue (USA)Dahar (USA)geldingFlat 9.0f · NH 2m2fFlat 11.9f · NH 2m3½f
Bahri (USA)
Sex
gelding
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.0f · NH 2m2f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 11.9f · NH 2m3½f

Progeny of Bahri (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs2,0351825508.9%27.0%60
At 9f to 11f602581749.6%28.9%40
On Good going414341078.2%25.8%30
At 9f to 11f on Good going12612369.5%28.6%20
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
2,035
Wins
182
Placed
550
Win %
8.9%
Place %
27.0%
This horse runs
6
This horse wins
0
At 9f to 11f
Condition
At 9f to 11f
Runs
602
Wins
58
Placed
174
Win %
9.6%
Place %
28.9%
This horse runs
4
This horse wins
0
On Good going
Condition
On Good going
Runs
414
Wins
34
Placed
107
Win %
8.2%
Place %
25.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
At 9f to 11f on Good going
Condition
At 9f to 11f on Good going
Runs
126
Wins
12
Placed
36
Win %
9.5%
Place %
28.6%
This horse runs
2
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Bahri (USA) × Dahar mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat100.0%06040.0%£4,364€0
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
6
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
4
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Great Orator (USA)600£4,364€0
Great Orator (USA)
Runs
6
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£4,364
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
Flat7676743
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
76
Highest OR
76
Lowest OR
74
Rated runs
3

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
21 Aug 06WindsorFlat7603/12
22 Jul 06NewburyFlat7626/8
3 Jul 06WindsorFlat74-2/8
  • 3/1221 Aug 06 · Windsor
    All fields
    Date
    21 Aug 06
    Course
    Windsor
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    76
    Change
    0
    Pos
    3/12
  • 6/822 Jul 06 · Newbury
    All fields
    Date
    22 Jul 06
    Course
    Newbury
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    76
    Change
    2
    Pos
    6/8
  • 2/83 Jul 06 · Windsor
    All fields
    Date
    3 Jul 06
    Course
    Windsor
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    74
    Change
    -
    Pos
    2/8

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
Flat76760760
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
76
OR last run
76
Change
0
Highest OR
76
v highest
0

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Verbal Intrigue (USA)

G1 winners
0
Produce
4 winners from 5 runners

Full siblings

No other foal by Bahri (USA) out of Verbal Intrigue (USA) has raced in Britain or Ireland.

Half siblings

By Galileo (IRE)

By Choisir (AUS)

By Zafeen (FR)

By Pastoral Pursuits (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Verbal Intrigue (USA)

Notable relatives

Half-brother

View full Verbal Intrigue family

In brief

When was Great Orator foaled?

Great Orator (USA) was foaled in 2002.

Who are the sire and dam of Great Orator?

Great Orator (USA) is by Bahri (USA) out of Verbal Intrigue (USA), a daughter of Dahar (USA).

Who trained Great Orator?

Great Orator (USA) was trained by Henry Candy and owned by J J Byrne T J Billington at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.

What is Great Orator's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Great Orator (USA) ran 6 times without winning.

What was Great Orator's official rating?

Great Orator (USA) was last officially rated 76 on the Flat (also the career high).

Is Great Orator still racing?

Great Orator (USA) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 21 August 2006 at Windsor in the VC Casino.com Maiden Stakes, finishing 3rd of 12, and has not run there since.

Is Great Orator related to any top horses?

Great Orator (USA)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include New Deerfield (GB) (half-brother, Listed winner), from the Verbal Intrigue (USA) family.

What is Great Orator's record at Windsor?

Great Orator (USA) ran most often at Windsor, with no wins from 3 runs there.

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