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Horse profile
First Idea
- TrainerSimon Dow
- OwnerMrs A M Upsdell
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 1995
- Highest OR
- 44
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 6 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 14 Feb 1998, Lingfield (AW) (6/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | 6/7 | 16/1 | 17¾ | Paul Doe | Simon Dow | Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E | Class 5 | Flat AW | 7f | Slow | 7-9 | - | Comeoutofthefog (IRE) | £2,749 | 9 | 3/6 |
| 5 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | 6/7 | 14/1 | 9¾ | Paul Doe | Simon Dow | Japonica Handicap Class E | Class 5 | Flat AW | 7f | Slow | 7-10 | 44 | Means Business (IRE) | £2,766 | 16 | 0/6 |
| 20 Jan 98 | Lingfield (AW) | 5/9 | 7/1 | 7½ | Paul Doe | Simon Dow | Vauxhall Selling Stakes Class G | Class 6 | Flat AW | 1m | Standard | 7-13 | - | Rockette (GB) | £1,881 | 150 | 0/6 |
| 23 Aug 97 | Windsor | 12/14 | 20/1 | 15 | F Jovine | Simon Dow | Great Charter Selling Stakes Class F | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 8-6 | - | Rosewood Lady (IRE) | £2,738 | 18 | 0/8 |
| 5 Aug 97 | Folkestone | 5/6 | 25/1 | 6½ | M Roberts | Simon Dow | Pat Marsh Show Fillies' Selling Stakes Class G | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 8-10 | - | Shannon (IRE) | £1,985 | 8 | 0/5 |
| 28 Jul 97 | Windsor | 8/9 | 16/1 | dist | Gary Carter | Simon Dow | Rumplestiltskin Selling Stakes Class G | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good to Firm | 8-6 | - | Sassy (IRE) | £2,273 | - | 0/8 |
- 6/714 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)16/1
Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
Class 57fSlow
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 17¾
- Jockey
- Paul Doe
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Slow
- Wgt
- 7-9
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Comeoutofthefog (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,749
- Days
- 9
- Future form
- 3/6
- 6/75 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)14/1
Japonica Handicap Class E
Class 57fSlow
All fields
- Date
- 5 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- 9¾
- Jockey
- Paul Doe
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Japonica Handicap Class E
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Slow
- Wgt
- 7-10
- OR
- 44
- Winner / 2nd
- Means Business (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,766
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 0/6
- 5/920 Jan 98 · Lingfield (AW)7/1
Vauxhall Selling Stakes Class G
Class 61mStandard
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jan 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 5/9
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- 7½
- Jockey
- Paul Doe
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Vauxhall Selling Stakes Class G
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 7-13
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Rockette (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,881
- Days
- 150
- Future form
- 0/6
Great Charter Selling Stakes Class F
Class 66fGood
All fields
- Date
- 23 Aug 97
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 12/14
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- 15
- Jockey
- F Jovine
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Great Charter Selling Stakes Class F
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-6
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Rosewood Lady (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,738
- Days
- 18
- Future form
- 0/8
- 5/65 Aug 97 · Folkestone25/1
Pat Marsh Show Fillies' Selling Stakes Class G
Class 66fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 5 Aug 97
- Course
- Folkestone
- Pos
- 5/6
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 6½
- Jockey
- M Roberts
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Pat Marsh Show Fillies' Selling Stakes Class G
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 8-10
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Shannon (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £1,985
- Days
- 8
- Future form
- 0/5
Rumplestiltskin Selling Stakes Class G
Class 66fGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 28 Jul 97
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 8/9
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Gary Carter
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Rumplestiltskin Selling Stakes Class G
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 8-6
- OR
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Sassy (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,273
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/8
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E | 6/7 | Comeoutofthefog (IRE) | 1 | 28 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Taurus Claiming Stakes Class F |
| 14 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E | 6/7 | Corsecan (GB) | 3 | 26 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Sea Of H.E.A.T. & Barrier Air Conditioning Handicap (Div II) |
| 14 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E | 6/7 | Sharp Steel (GB) | 5 | 20 Mar 98 | Southwell (AW) | Aphrodite Selling Stakes Class G |
- 6/714 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)
Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Comeoutofthefog (IRE)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 28 Feb 98
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Taurus Claiming Stakes Class F
- 6/714 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)
Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Corsecan (GB)
- Their pos
- 3
- Won on
- 26 Feb 98
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Sea Of H.E.A.T. & Barrier Air Conditioning Handicap (Div II)
- 6/714 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)
Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
All fields
- Date
- 14 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Sharp Steel (GB)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 20 Mar 98
- At
- Southwell (AW)
- Race won
- Aphrodite Selling Stakes Class G
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Dow | 28 Jul 97 | 14 Feb 98 | 8/9 | 44 | 44 | 44 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Simon Dow
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- First run
- 28 Jul 97
- Last run
- 14 Feb 98
- First run for yard
- 8/9
- OR first run
- 44
- OR last run
- 44
- Best OR
- 44
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 44 | 28 Jul 97 | 14 Feb 98 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 44
- First run
- 28 Jul 97
- Last run
- 14 Feb 98
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good to Firm | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Slow | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good to Firm
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Slow
- Going
- Slow
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Windsor | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Folkestone | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Lingfield (AW)
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Windsor
- Course
- Windsor
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Folkestone
- Course
- Folkestone
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| January | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| February | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| August | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
January
- Month
- January
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
February
- Month
- February
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
August
- Month
- August
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Paul Doe | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| F Jovine | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Gary Carter | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| M Roberts | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Paul Doe
- Jockey
- Paul Doe
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
F Jovine
- Jockey
- F Jovine
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Gary Carter
- Jockey
- Gary Carter
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
M Roberts
- Jockey
- M Roberts
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Dow | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Simon Dow
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchPrimo Dominie (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchGood Thinking (USA)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireRaja Baba (USA)
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Good Thinking (USA) · 2 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Primo Dominie (GB) | Good Thinking (USA) | Raja Baba (USA) | filly | Flat 6.6f · NH 2m2f | Flat 8.8f · NH 2m5½f |
Primo Dominie (GB)
- Damsire
- Raja Baba (USA)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.6f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 8.8f · NH 2m5½f
Progeny of Primo Dominie (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 6,641 | 609 | 1,644 | 6 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 3,565 | 367 | 944 | 3 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 1,361 | 141 | 348 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on AW going | 680 | 81 | 196 | 0 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 6,641
- Wins
- 609
- Placed
- 1,644
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 3,565
- Wins
- 367
- Placed
- 944
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 1,361
- Wins
- 141
- Placed
- 348
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on AW going
- Runs
- 680
- Wins
- 81
- Placed
- 196
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Primo Dominie (GB) × Raja Baba mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First Idea (GB) | 6 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
First Idea (GB)
- Horse
- First Idea (GB)
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 44 | 44 | 44 | 1 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 44
- Highest OR
- 44
- Lowest OR
- 44
- Rated runs
- 1
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5 Feb 98 | Lingfield (AW) | Flat | 44 | 6/7 |
- 6/75 Feb 98 · Lingfield (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 5 Feb 98
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 44
- Pos
- 6/7
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 44 | 44 | 0 | 44 | 0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 44
- OR last run
- 44
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 44
- v highest
- 0
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 5 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Primo Dominie (GB) out of Good Thinking (USA) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Kris (GB)
- Thinking Twice (USA)6W · 42R
By Shadeed (USA)
- All In Good Time (GB)0W · 6R
By Polar Falcon (USA)
- Miss Peregrine (GB)0W · 10R
By Bin Ajwaad (IRE)
- Premier Ambitions (GB)1W · 22R
Female line
- 1Good Thinking (USA)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was First Idea foaled?
First Idea (GB) was foaled in 1995.
Who are the sire and dam of First Idea?
First Idea (GB) is by Primo Dominie (GB) out of Good Thinking (USA), a daughter of Raja Baba (USA).
Who trained First Idea?
First Idea (GB) was trained by Simon Dow and owned by Mrs A M Upsdell at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is First Idea's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, First Idea (GB) ran 6 times without winning.
What was First Idea's official rating?
First Idea (GB) was last officially rated 44 on the Flat (also the career high).
Is First Idea still racing?
First Idea (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 14 February 1998 at Lingfield (AW) in the Cupid Claiming Stakes Class E, finishing 6th of 7, and has not run there since.
What is First Idea's record at Lingfield (AW)?
First Idea (GB) ran most often at Lingfield (AW), with no wins from 3 runs there.
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