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Horse profile
Final Say
- TrainerSimon Hodgson
- OwnerMiss Juliet E Reed Michael Truan
- FamilyWelcome Break
- Sex
- mare
- Foaled
- 2010
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 1 run (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 14 Mar 2016, Taunton (13/14)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 14 Mar 16 | Taunton | 13/14 | 20/1 | dist | Sam Twiston-Davies | Simon Hodgson | Bathwick Tyres Bristol Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race | Class 6 | NH Flat | 2m½f | Good to Soft | 11-0 | Lamanver Odyssey (GB) | £2,053 | 0/10 |
Bathwick Tyres Bristol Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
Class 62m½fGood to Soft
All fields
- Date
- 14 Mar 16
- Course
- Taunton
- Pos
- 13/14
- SP
- 20/1
- Btn
- dist
- Jockey
- Sam Twiston-Davies
- Trainer
- Simon Hodgson
- Race
- Bathwick Tyres Bristol Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- NH Flat
- Dist
- 2m½f
- Going
- Good to Soft
- Wgt
- 11-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Lamanver Odyssey (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,053
- Future form
- 0/10
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Hodgson | 14 Mar 16 | 14 Mar 16 | 13/14 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Simon Hodgson
- Trainer
- Simon Hodgson
- First run
- 14 Mar 16
- Last run
- 14 Mar 16
- First run for yard
- 13/14
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 14 Mar 16 | 14 Mar 16 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 14 Mar 16
- Last run
- 14 Mar 16
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchAlflora (IRE)
Parent · 1
- SireAlflora (IRE)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNiniski (USA)
- Sire's damAdrana (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchEn Vacances (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireOld Vic (GB)
- Dam's damWelcome Break (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- En Vacances (IRE) · by Old Vic (GB) · 3 winners from 6 runners
- Welcome Break (GB) · 3 winners from 5 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Alflora (IRE) | En Vacances (IRE) | Old Vic (GB) | mare | Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f | Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f |
Alflora (IRE)
- Sire
- Alflora (IRE)
- Damsire
- Old Vic (GB)
- Sex
- mare
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.3f · NH 2m4f
Progeny of Alflora (IRE) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All National Hunt runs | 7,582 | 759 | 1,962 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f | 2,636 | 244 | 649 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Good to soft or yielding going | 1,735 | 158 | 424 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going | 577 | 47 | 135 | 1 | 0 |
All National Hunt runs
- Condition
- All National Hunt runs
- Runs
- 7,582
- Wins
- 759
- Placed
- 1,962
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f
- Runs
- 2,636
- Wins
- 244
- Placed
- 649
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- On Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 1,735
- Wins
- 158
- Placed
- 424
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Condition
- At 2m to 2m1f on Good to soft or yielding going
- Runs
- 577
- Wins
- 47
- Placed
- 135
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Alflora (IRE) × Old Vic mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| National Hunt | 2 | 0 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Final Say (GB) | 1 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
| Harry Masters (GB) | 5 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Final Say (GB)
- Horse
- Final Say (GB)
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Harry Masters (GB)
- Horse
- Harry Masters (GB)
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 3 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Alflora (IRE) out of En Vacances (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Persian Bold (IRE)
- Sariba (GB)2W · 16R
By Mark Of Esteem (IRE)
- Psychomodo (GB)4W · 25R
By Inchinor (GB)
- Miss Keck (GB)4W · 19R
By Classic Cliche (IRE)
- Psychosis (GB)0W · 3R
By Norse Dancer (IRE)
- Morgana (GB)0W · 4R
Female line
- 1En Vacances (IRE) · by Old Vic (GB)
- 2Welcome Break (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Final Say foaled?
Final Say (GB) was foaled in 2010.
Who are the sire and dam of Final Say?
Final Say (GB) is by Alflora (IRE) out of En Vacances (IRE), a daughter of Old Vic (GB).
Who trained Final Say?
Final Say (GB) was trained by Simon Hodgson and owned by Miss Juliet E Reed Michael Truan at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Final Say's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Final Say (GB) ran 1 time without winning.
Is Final Say still racing?
Final Say (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 14 March 2016 at Taunton in the Bathwick Tyres Bristol Mares' Standard Open National Hunt Flat Race, finishing 13th of 14, and has not run there since.
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