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Elusive Truth (IRE) silks

Horse profile

Elusive Truth

Sex
filly
Foaled
2020
Colour
bay
Highest OR
65
Record (GB & IRE)
0 wins from 5 runs (0%)
Prize money (GB & IRE)
£651 GB
Last official rating
62 (Flat)
Last run (GB & IRE)
10 Feb 2024, Newcastle (AW) (4/10)
Last win (GB & IRE)
Never won
Recent form
66684

Form

Race record

DateCoursePosSPBtnJockeyTrainerRaceClassTypeDistGoingWgtORWinner / 2ndWinner prizeDaysFuture form
10 Feb 24Newcastle (AW)4/1066/13¼Sam JamesGemma TuttyFind More Big Deals At BetUK HandicapClass 6Flat AW1m2fStandard9-662Explorers Way (IRE)£5,548220/8
19 Jan 24Wolverhampton (AW)8/1050/16Jack MitchellGemma TuttyBoost Your Acca At BetMGM Fillies' HandicapClass 5Flat AW1m1½fStandard9-865Ellexis (IRE)£3,716310/9
19 Dec 23Wolverhampton (AW)6/10100/121Clifford LeeGemma TuttyWin £2,000 000 With BetMGM's Golden Goals Novice StakesClass 5Flat AW1m½fStandard9-2-Crown Board (IRE)£4,1044380/8
7 Oct 22Newcastle (AW)6/820/14Shane GrayKarl BurkeGo Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' StakesClass 5Flat AW1mStandard9-2-Maid In Kentucky (USA)£3,672541/6
14 Aug 22Southwell (AW)6/109/26¼Sam JamesKarl BurkeN&L Franklin Developments Fillies' Novice StakesClass 5Flat AW7fStandard9-2-Mazyuna (IRE)£3,672-0/8
  • 4/1010 Feb 24 · Newcastle (AW)66/1

    Find More Big Deals At BetUK Handicap

    Class 61m2fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    10 Feb 24
    Course
    Newcastle (AW)
    Pos
    4/10
    SP
    66/1
    Btn
    3¼
    Jockey
    Sam James
    Race
    Find More Big Deals At BetUK Handicap
    Class
    Class 6
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    1m2f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-6
    OR
    62
    Winner prize
    £5,548
    Days
    22
    Future form
    0/8
  • 8/1019 Jan 24 · Wolverhampton (AW)50/1

    Boost Your Acca At BetMGM Fillies' Handicap

    Class 51m1½fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    19 Jan 24
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    8/10
    SP
    50/1
    Btn
    6
    Race
    Boost Your Acca At BetMGM Fillies' Handicap
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    1m1½f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-8
    OR
    65
    Winner / 2nd
    Ellexis (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £3,716
    Days
    31
    Future form
    0/9
  • 6/1019 Dec 23 · Wolverhampton (AW)100/1

    Win £2,000 000 With BetMGM's Golden Goals Novice Stakes

    Class 51m½fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    19 Dec 23
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Pos
    6/10
    SP
    100/1
    Btn
    21
    Race
    Win £2,000 000 With BetMGM's Golden Goals Novice Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    1m½f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Crown Board (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £4,104
    Days
    438
    Future form
    0/8
  • 6/87 Oct 22 · Newcastle (AW)20/1

    Go Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' Stakes

    Class 51mStandard

    All fields
    Date
    7 Oct 22
    Course
    Newcastle (AW)
    Pos
    6/8
    SP
    20/1
    Btn
    4
    Trainer
    Karl Burke
    Race
    Go Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    1m
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    -
    Winner prize
    £3,672
    Days
    54
    Future form
    1/6
  • 6/1014 Aug 22 · Southwell (AW)9/2

    N&L Franklin Developments Fillies' Novice Stakes

    Class 57fStandard

    All fields
    Date
    14 Aug 22
    Course
    Southwell (AW)
    Pos
    6/10
    SP
    9/2
    Btn
    6¼
    Jockey
    Sam James
    Trainer
    Karl Burke
    Race
    N&L Franklin Developments Fillies' Novice Stakes
    Class
    Class 5
    Type
    Flat AW
    Dist
    7f
    Going
    Standard
    Wgt
    9-2
    OR
    -
    Winner / 2nd
    Mazyuna (IRE)
    Winner prize
    £3,672
    Days
    -
    Future form
    0/8

Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.

Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races

DateCourseRaceThis horseWinner next timeTheir posWon onAtRace won
7 Oct 22Newcastle (AW)Go Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' Stakes6/8Maid In Kentucky (USA)125 Mar 23Lingfield (AW)talkSPORT Powered By Fans Novice Stakes
  • 6/87 Oct 22 · Newcastle (AW)

    Go Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' Stakes

    All fields
    Date
    7 Oct 22
    Course
    Newcastle (AW)
    Race
    Go Racing With vickers.bet Maiden Fillies' Stakes
    This horse
    6/8
    Winner next time
    Maid In Kentucky (USA)
    Their pos
    1
    Won on
    25 Mar 23
    At
    Lingfield (AW)
    Race won
    talkSPORT Powered By Fans Novice Stakes

Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).

Trainer changes

TrainerMoved fromFirst runLast runFirst run for yardOR first runOR last runBest ORRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Gemma TuttyK R Burke19 Dec 2310 Feb 246/1065626530000.0%0.0%£651€0
Karl Burke-14 Aug 227 Oct 226/10---20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Gemma Tutty
Moved from
K R Burke
First run
19 Dec 23
Last run
10 Feb 24
First run for yard
6/10
OR first run
65
OR last run
62
Best OR
65
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Karl Burke
Trainer
Karl Burke
First run
14 Aug 22
Last run
7 Oct 22
First run for yard
6/10
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Spells with each trainer in race order, latest first (a horse that returns to a trainer shows a new spell). From British and Irish runs since 1990.

Stats

Career summary by code (GB & IRE)

CodeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)Best ORFirst runLast run
Flat50000.0%0.0%£651€06514 Aug 2210 Feb 24
Flat
Code
Flat
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Best OR
65
First run
14 Aug 22
Last run
10 Feb 24

Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.

By race type

Race typeRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat AW50000.0%0.0%£651€0
Flat AW
Race type
Flat AW
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By going

GoingRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Standard50000.0%0.0%£651€0
Standard
Going
Standard
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By distance

DistanceRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
7f to 1m20000.0%0.0%£0€0
9f to 11f30000.0%0.0%£651€0
7f to 1m
Distance
7f to 1m
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
9f to 11f
Distance
9f to 11f
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.

By course

CourseRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Newcastle (AW)20000.0%0.0%£651€0
Wolverhampton (AW)20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Southwell (AW)10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Newcastle (AW)
Course
Newcastle (AW)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Wolverhampton (AW)
Course
Wolverhampton (AW)
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Southwell (AW)
Course
Southwell (AW)
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By class

ClassRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Class 540000.0%0.0%£0€0
Class 610000.0%0.0%£651€0
Class 5
Class
Class 5
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Class 6
Class
Class 6
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.

By field size

RunnersRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
9 to 12 runners40000.0%0.0%£651€0
6 to 8 runners10000.0%0.0%£0€0
9 to 12 runners
Runners
9 to 12 runners
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
6 to 8 runners
Runners
6 to 8 runners
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By month

MonthRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
January10000.0%0.0%£0€0
February10000.0%0.0%£651€0
August10000.0%0.0%£0€0
October10000.0%0.0%£0€0
December10000.0%0.0%£0€0
January
Month
January
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
February
Month
February
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
August
Month
August
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
October
Month
October
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
December
Month
December
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By jockey

JockeyRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Sam James20000.0%0.0%£651€0
Clifford Lee10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Jack Mitchell10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Shane Gray10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Sam James
Jockey
Sam James
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Clifford Lee
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Jack Mitchell
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Shane Gray
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By trainer

TrainerRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Gemma Tutty30000.0%0.0%£651€0
Karl Burke20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Gemma Tutty
Runs
3
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Karl Burke
Trainer
Karl Burke
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

By headgear

HeadgearRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
No headgear50000.0%0.0%£651€0
No headgear
Headgear
No headgear
Runs
5
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.

By days since last run

Days since last runRunsWins2nd3rdWin %Place %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Debut / no previous run10000.0%0.0%£0€0
15 to 30 days10000.0%0.0%£651€0
31 to 60 days20000.0%0.0%£0€0
Over a year10000.0%0.0%£0€0
Debut / no previous run
Days since last run
Debut / no previous run
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
15 to 30 days
Days since last run
15 to 30 days
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
31 to 60 days
Days since last run
31 to 60 days
Runs
2
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Over a year
Days since last run
Over a year
Runs
1
Wins
0
2nd
0
3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Place %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0

Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.

Pedigree

Pedigree

Sire branchElusive Pimpernel (USA)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Sire's sireElusive Quality (USA)
  2. Sire's damCara Fantasy (IRE)

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Sire's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Sire's sire's damNot traced
  3. Sire's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchLost Icon (IRE)

Parent · 1

  1. DamLost Icon (IRE)

Grandparents · 2

  1. Dam's sireIntikhab (USA)
  2. Dam's damNot traced

Great-grandparents · 4

  1. Dam's sire's sireNot traced
  2. Dam's sire's damNot traced
  3. Dam's dam's sireNot traced
  4. Dam's dam's damNot traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced
Not traced

Breeding card

HorseElusive Truth (IRE)
Sexfilly
Foaled2020
SireElusive Pimpernel (USA)
DamLost Icon (IRE)
DamsireIntikhab (USA)
Sire's sireElusive Quality (USA)
Sire's damCara Fantasy (IRE)
Dam's produce6 winners from 9 runners
Notable siblingElusive Beauty (IRE)

Female line

  1. Lost Icon (IRE) · 6 winners from 9 runners

Sire, dam and damsire

SireDamDamsireBreederFoaledColourSexSire's avg winning distanceDamsire's avg winning distance
Elusive Pimpernel (USA)Lost Icon (IRE)Intikhab (USA)Peter McCutcheon9 Mar 20bayfillyFlat 9.2f · NH 2m3fFlat 7.9f · NH 2m2f
Elusive Pimpernel (USA)
Breeder
Peter McCutcheon
Foaled
9 Mar 20
Colour
bay
Sex
filly
Sire's avg winning distance
Flat 9.2f · NH 2m3f
Damsire's avg winning distance
Flat 7.9f · NH 2m2f

Progeny of Elusive Pimpernel (USA) in this horse's best conditions

ConditionRunsWinsPlacedWin %Place %This horse runsThis horse wins
All Flat runs933691647.4%17.6%50
At 9f to 11f27917506.1%17.9%30
On AW going24019447.9%18.3%50
At 9f to 11f on AW going694135.8%18.8%30
All Flat runs
Condition
All Flat runs
Runs
933
Wins
69
Placed
164
Win %
7.4%
Place %
17.6%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
0
At 9f to 11f
Condition
At 9f to 11f
Runs
279
Wins
17
Placed
50
Win %
6.1%
Place %
17.9%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0
On AW going
Condition
On AW going
Runs
240
Wins
19
Placed
44
Win %
7.9%
Place %
18.3%
This horse runs
5
This horse wins
0
At 9f to 11f on AW going
Condition
At 9f to 11f on AW going
Runs
69
Wins
4
Placed
13
Win %
5.8%
Place %
18.8%
This horse runs
3
This horse wins
0

Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.

Elusive Pimpernel (USA) × Intikhab (USA) mares (the cross)

CodeRunnersWinnersWinners %Black-type winnersRunsWins2nd/3rdWin %Prize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Flat5240.0%1374510.8%£23,335€72,691
National Hunt100.0%04000.0%£0€429
All runs5240.0%141459.8%£23,335€73,120
Flat
Code
Flat
Runners
5
Winners
2
Winners %
40.0%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
37
Wins
4
2nd/3rd
5
Win %
10.8%
Prize GB (£)
£23,335
Prize IRE (€)
€72,691
National Hunt
Code
National Hunt
Runners
1
Winners
0
Winners %
0.0%
Black-type winners
0
Runs
4
Wins
0
2nd/3rd
0
Win %
0.0%
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€429
All runs
Code
All runs
Runners
5
Winners
2
Winners %
40.0%
Black-type winners
1
Runs
41
Wins
4
2nd/3rd
5
Win %
9.8%
Prize GB (£)
£23,335
Prize IRE (€)
€73,120

All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.

Best of the cross

HorseRunsWinsBlack-type winsBest winPrize GB (£)Prize IRE (€)
Elusive Beauty (IRE)2531Listed£22,684€59,553
Elusive King (IRE)510-£0€13,138
Belle De Neige (IRE)100-£0€0
Elusive Truth (IRE)500-£651€0
Saoirses Choice (IRE)500-£0€429
Elusive Beauty (IRE)
Runs
25
Wins
3
Black-type wins
1
Best win
Listed
Prize GB (£)
£22,684
Prize IRE (€)
€59,553
Elusive King (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
1
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€13,138
Belle De Neige (IRE)
Runs
1
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Elusive Truth (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£651
Prize IRE (€)
€0
Saoirses Choice (IRE)
Runs
5
Wins
0
Black-type wins
0
Prize GB (£)
£0
Prize IRE (€)
€429

Top 12 by best win level, then wins.

Ratings

Official ratings

CodeCurrent ORHighest ORLowest ORRated runs
Flat6265622
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
62
Highest OR
65
Lowest OR
62
Rated runs
2

Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.

Official rating by run

DateCourseCodeORChangePos
10 Feb 24Newcastle (AW)Flat62-34/10
19 Jan 24Wolverhampton (AW)Flat65-8/10
  • 4/1010 Feb 24 · Newcastle (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    10 Feb 24
    Course
    Newcastle (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    62
    Change
    -3
    Pos
    4/10
  • 8/1019 Jan 24 · Wolverhampton (AW)
    All fields
    Date
    19 Jan 24
    Course
    Wolverhampton (AW)
    Code
    Flat
    OR
    65
    Change
    -
    Pos
    8/10

Current mark v winning marks

CodeCurrent OROR last runChangeHighest ORv highest
Flat6262065-3
Flat
Code
Flat
Current OR
62
OR last run
62
Change
0
Highest OR
65
v highest
-3

Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.

Family

Dam summary

Lost Icon (IRE)

G1 winners
0
Produce
6 winners from 9 runners

Full siblings

Half siblings

By Marju (IRE)

By Hurricane Run (IRE)

By One Cool Cat (USA)

By Diamond Green (FR)

By Finsceal Fior (IRE)

By Decorated Knight (GB)

Female line

  1. 1Lost Icon (IRE)

Notable relatives

Full sister

Niece (out of a sibling)

View full Lost Icon family

In brief

How old is Elusive Truth?

Elusive Truth (IRE), a bay racehorse, was foaled on 9 March 2020 and is 6 years old.

Who are the sire and dam of Elusive Truth?

Elusive Truth (IRE) is by Elusive Pimpernel (USA) out of Lost Icon (IRE), a daughter of Intikhab (USA), and was bred by Peter McCutcheon.

Who trained Elusive Truth?

Elusive Truth (IRE) was trained by Gemma Tutty and owned by Nick Bradley Racing 43 at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland, having also run for Karl Burke.

What is Elusive Truth's race record?

In Britain and Ireland, Elusive Truth (IRE) ran 5 times without winning.

What was Elusive Truth's official rating?

Elusive Truth (IRE) was last officially rated 62 on the Flat (career high 65).

Is Elusive Truth still racing?

Elusive Truth (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 10 February 2024 at Newcastle (AW) in the Find More Big Deals At BetUK Handicap, finishing 4th of 10, and has not run there since.

Is Elusive Truth related to any top horses?

Elusive Truth (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include Elusive Beauty (IRE) (full sister, Listed winner) and Love A Giggle (IRE) (niece, Listed winner), from the Lost Icon (IRE) family.

What is Elusive Truth's record at Newcastle (AW)?

Elusive Truth (IRE) ran most often at Newcastle (AW), with no wins from 2 runs there.

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