Go deeper before the next race.
Open every racecard in full and get your research done before they go to post.
- 14racecard tabs per race
- 20+bookmaker prices side by side
- Trackeralerts when your horses are declared
30-day free trial
£0today
Start my 30-day free trialBy continuing you agree to our Terms and Intellectual Property and Acceptable Use policy.
£0 today. Card on step 2. £24.99 from day 31.Cancel any time.
Horse profile
Discuss (GB)
- TrainerSimon Dow
- OwnerMrs G R Smith
- FamilySweet Jane
- Sex
- filly
- Foaled
- 1992
See also: Discuss (USA) · Sir Michael Stoute · 7 runs · 1 win
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 4 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £740 GB
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 31 May 1994, Leicester (PU/11)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 31 May 94 | Leicester | PU/11 | 7/1 | - | M Roberts | Simon Dow | Tote Each Way Selling Stakes Class G | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 8-6 | We're Joken (GB) | £2,469 | 6 | 0/9 |
| 25 May 94 | Brighton | 3/10 | 9/1 | 4½ | M Roberts | Simon Dow | Victoria Gardens Selling Stakes Class G | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 8-6 | Any One Line (IRE) | £2,070 | 21 | 0/8 |
| 4 May 94 | Brighton | 3/4 | 33/1 | 12½ | G Hind | Simon Dow | EBF St Ann's Wells Maiden Stakes Class D | Class 4 | Flat Turf | 5½f | Firm | 8-9 | Hinton Rock (IRE) | £3,266 | 9 | 0/3 |
| 25 Apr 94 | Windsor | 6/7 | 40/1 | 16¾ | Paul Eddery | Simon Dow | Lady Caroline Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class C | Class 3 | Flat Turf | 5f | Good | 8-4 | Polly Particular (GB) | £4,195 | - | 0/6 |
Tote Each Way Selling Stakes Class G
Class 66fGood
All fields
- Date
- 31 May 94
- Course
- Leicester
- Pos
- PU/11
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- -
- Jockey
- M Roberts
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Tote Each Way Selling Stakes Class G
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-6
- Winner / 2nd
- We're Joken (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,469
- Days
- 6
- Future form
- 0/9
Victoria Gardens Selling Stakes Class G
Class 66fGood
All fields
- Date
- 25 May 94
- Course
- Brighton
- Pos
- 3/10
- SP
- 9/1
- Btn
- 4½
- Jockey
- M Roberts
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Victoria Gardens Selling Stakes Class G
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-6
- Winner / 2nd
- Any One Line (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,070
- Days
- 21
- Future form
- 0/8
EBF St Ann's Wells Maiden Stakes Class D
Class 45½fFirm
All fields
- Date
- 4 May 94
- Course
- Brighton
- Pos
- 3/4
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 12½
- Jockey
- G Hind
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- EBF St Ann's Wells Maiden Stakes Class D
- Class
- Class 4
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5½f
- Going
- Firm
- Wgt
- 8-9
- Winner / 2nd
- Hinton Rock (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,266
- Days
- 9
- Future form
- 0/3
Lady Caroline Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class C
Class 35fGood
All fields
- Date
- 25 Apr 94
- Course
- Windsor
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 40/1
- Btn
- 16¾
- Jockey
- Paul Eddery
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Race
- Lady Caroline Fillies' Conditions Stakes Class C
- Class
- Class 3
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 5f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 8-4
- Winner / 2nd
- Polly Particular (GB)
- Winner prize
- £4,195
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 0/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Dow | 25 Apr 94 | 31 May 94 | 6/7 | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
Simon Dow
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- First run
- 25 Apr 94
- Last run
- 31 May 94
- First run for yard
- 6/7
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 | 25 Apr 94 | 31 May 94 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 25 Apr 94
- Last run
- 31 May 94
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Firm | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £470 | €0 | ||
| Good | 3 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £270 | €0 |
Firm
- Going
- Firm
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £470
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £270
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 3 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Class 4 | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £470 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £270 | €0 |
Class 3
- Class
- Class 3
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 4
- Class
- Class 4
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £470
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £270
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2 to 5 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £470 | €0 | ||
| 6 to 8 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £270 | €0 |
2 to 5 runners
- Runners
- 2 to 5 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £470
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £270
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 3 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| M Roberts | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £270 | €0 | ||
| G Hind | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £470 | €0 | ||
| Paul Eddery | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
M Roberts
- Jockey
- M Roberts
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £270
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
G Hind
- Jockey
- G Hind
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £470
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Paul Eddery
- Jockey
- Paul Eddery
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Simon Dow | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
Simon Dow
- Trainer
- Simon Dow
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 1 to 7 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £470 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 1 | £270 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
1 to 7 days
- Days since last run
- 1 to 7 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £470
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 1
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £270
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchDowsing (USA)
Parent · 1
- SireDowsing (USA)
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchDismiss (GB)
Parent · 1
- DamDismiss (GB)
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireDaring March (GB)
- Dam's damSweet Jane (GB)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Dismiss (GB) · by Daring March (GB) · 2 winners from 6 runners
- Sweet Jane (GB) · 1 winners from 3 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Dowsing (USA) | Dismiss (GB) | Daring March (GB) | filly | Flat 6.7f · NH 2m2f | Flat 7.5f · NH 2m2f |
Dowsing (USA)
- Sire
- Dowsing (USA)
- Dam
- Dismiss (GB)
- Damsire
- Daring March (GB)
- Sex
- filly
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.7f · NH 2m2f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 7.5f · NH 2m2f
Progeny of Dowsing (USA) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 2,035 | 221 | 564 | 4 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f | 910 | 117 | 273 | 4 | 0 | ||
| On Good going | 506 | 41 | 123 | 3 | 0 | ||
| At 5f to 6f on Good going | 232 | 17 | 56 | 3 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 2,035
- Wins
- 221
- Placed
- 564
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 910
- Wins
- 117
- Placed
- 273
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 4
- This horse wins
- 0
On Good going
- Condition
- On Good going
- Runs
- 506
- Wins
- 41
- Placed
- 123
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Condition
- At 5f to 6f on Good going
- Runs
- 232
- Wins
- 17
- Placed
- 56
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Dowsing (USA) × Daring March mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 2 | £740 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Discuss (GB) | 4 | 0 | 0 | £740 | €0 |
Discuss (GB)
- Horse
- Discuss (GB)
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £740
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 6 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Dowsing (USA) out of Dismiss (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Most Welcome (GB)
- La Modiste (GB)7W · 41R
- La Mystique (GB)0W · 3R
By Mystiko (USA)
- Mystery (GB)1W · 10R
By Charmer (IRE)
- Charmaway (GB)0W · 6R
By Bijou D'Inde (GB)
- The Bees Knees (GB)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Dismiss (GB) · by Daring March (GB)
- 2Sweet Jane (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Discuss foaled?
Discuss (GB) was foaled in 1992.
Who are the sire and dam of Discuss?
Discuss (GB) is by Dowsing (USA) out of Dismiss (GB), a daughter of Daring March (GB).
Who trained Discuss?
Discuss (GB) was trained by Simon Dow and owned by Mrs G R Smith at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Discuss' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Discuss (GB) ran 4 times without winning.
Is Discuss still racing?
Discuss (GB) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 31 May 1994 at Leicester in the Tote Each Way Selling Stakes Class G (result: pulled up, 11 ran), and has not run there since.
What is Discuss' record at Brighton?
Discuss (GB) ran most often at Brighton, with no wins from 2 runs there.
Go deeper before the next race.
Open every racecard in full and get your research done before they go to post.
- 14racecard tabs per race
- 20+bookmaker prices side by side
- Trackeralerts when your horses are declared
30-day free trial
£0today
Start my 30-day free trialBy continuing you agree to our Terms and Intellectual Property and Acceptable Use policy.
£0 today. Card on step 2. £24.99 from day 31.Cancel any time.
Updated