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Horse profile
Commanche Lad
- TrainerLynn Siddall
- OwnerF Tyldesley
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 1988
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 2 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £0
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 6 Aug 1991, Redcar (4/7)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 Aug 91 | Redcar | 4/7 | 25/1 | 10 | Dean McKeown | Lynn Siddall | Emerald Maiden Claiming Stakes Class F | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 2m | Good to Firm | 9-0 | Bye Bye Baby (FR) | £2,280 | 20 | 0/6 |
| 17 Jul 91 | Hamilton | 6/7 | 7/1 | 22¾ | Dean McKeown | Lynn Siddall | Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F | Class 6 | Flat Turf | 1m4f | Soft | 9-0 | Smiles Ahead (GB) | £2,163 | - | 2/6 |
Emerald Maiden Claiming Stakes Class F
Class 62mGood to Firm
All fields
- Date
- 6 Aug 91
- Course
- Redcar
- Pos
- 4/7
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 10
- Jockey
- Dean McKeown
- Trainer
- Lynn Siddall
- Race
- Emerald Maiden Claiming Stakes Class F
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 2m
- Going
- Good to Firm
- Wgt
- 9-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Bye Bye Baby (FR)
- Winner prize
- £2,280
- Days
- 20
- Future form
- 0/6
Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
Class 61m4fSoft
All fields
- Date
- 17 Jul 91
- Course
- Hamilton
- Pos
- 6/7
- SP
- 7/1
- Btn
- 22¾
- Jockey
- Dean McKeown
- Trainer
- Lynn Siddall
- Race
- Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 1m4f
- Going
- Soft
- Wgt
- 9-0
- Winner / 2nd
- Smiles Ahead (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,163
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/6
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 17 Jul 91 | Hamilton | Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F | 6/7 | Smiles Ahead (GB) | 1 | 2 Aug 91 | Newmarket (July) | Side Hill Claiming Stakes Class D |
| 17 Jul 91 | Hamilton | Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F | 6/7 | Maggies Lad (GB) | 2 | 9 Aug 91 | Market Rasen | Laceby Juvenile Novices' Hurdle |
- 6/717 Jul 91 · Hamilton
Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
All fields
- Date
- 17 Jul 91
- Course
- Hamilton
- Race
- Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Smiles Ahead (GB)
- Their pos
- 1
- Won on
- 2 Aug 91
- At
- Newmarket (July)
- Race won
- Side Hill Claiming Stakes Class D
- 6/717 Jul 91 · Hamilton
Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
All fields
- Date
- 17 Jul 91
- Course
- Hamilton
- Race
- Hyndford Claiming Stakes Class F
- This horse
- 6/7
- Winner next time
- Maggies Lad (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 9 Aug 91
- Race won
- Laceby Juvenile Novices' Hurdle
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lynn Siddall | 17 Jul 91 | 6 Aug 91 | 6/7 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Lynn Siddall
- Trainer
- Lynn Siddall
- First run
- 17 Jul 91
- Last run
- 6 Aug 91
- First run for yard
- 6/7
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | 17 Jul 91 | 6 Aug 91 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- First run
- 17 Jul 91
- Last run
- 6 Aug 91
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchCommanche Run (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchMiss Upward (GB)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireAlcide
- Dam's damNot traced
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Breeding card
Female line
- Miss Upward (GB) · 0 winners from 3 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Commanche Run (GB) | Miss Upward (GB) | Alcide | gelding | Flat 11.1f · NH 2m3½f | Flat 11.8f · NH 2m4f |
Commanche Run (GB)
- Damsire
- Alcide
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.1f · NH 2m3½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 11.8f · NH 2m4f
Progeny of Commanche Run (GB) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 952 | 97 | 249 | 2 | 0 | ||
| At 14f and over | 248 | 21 | 58 | 1 | 0 | ||
| On Soft going | 74 | 8 | 17 | 1 | 0 | ||
| At 14f and over on Soft going | 22 | 2 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 952
- Wins
- 97
- Placed
- 249
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 2
- This horse wins
- 0
At 14f and over
- Condition
- At 14f and over
- Runs
- 248
- Wins
- 21
- Placed
- 58
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
On Soft going
- Condition
- On Soft going
- Runs
- 74
- Wins
- 8
- Placed
- 17
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 1
- This horse wins
- 0
At 14f and over on Soft going
- Condition
- At 14f and over on Soft going
- Runs
- 22
- Wins
- 2
- Placed
- 3
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 0
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Commanche Run (GB) × Alcide mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 1 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 1
- Winners
- 0
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd/3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Small sample (under 5 runners): read with care. Includes this horse.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Commanche Lad (IRE) | 2 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Commanche Lad (IRE)
- Horse
- Commanche Lad (IRE)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 0 winners from 3 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Commanche Run (GB) out of Miss Upward (GB) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Sandy Creek (GB)
- Mister Petard (GB)0W · 3R
By Gorytus (USA)
- Keelleb (GB)0W · 2R
Female line
- 1Miss Upward (GB)
Notable relatives
No black-type winners in this female family in GB or IRE since 1990.
In brief
When was Commanche Lad foaled?
Commanche Lad (IRE) was foaled in 1988.
Who are the sire and dam of Commanche Lad?
Commanche Lad (IRE) is by Commanche Run (GB) out of Miss Upward (GB), a daughter of Alcide.
Who trained Commanche Lad?
Commanche Lad (IRE) was trained by Lynn Siddall and owned by F Tyldesley at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Commanche Lad's race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Commanche Lad (IRE) ran 2 times without winning.
Is Commanche Lad still racing?
Commanche Lad (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 6 August 1991 at Redcar in the Emerald Maiden Claiming Stakes Class F, finishing 4th of 7, and has not run there since.
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