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Horse profile
Carneades
- TrainerEd Walker
- OwnerSaeed Manana
- FamilyIvy
- Sex
- gelding
- Foaled
- 2010
- Highest OR
- 49
- Record (GB & IRE)
- 0 wins from 6 runs (0%)
- Prize money (GB & IRE)
- £241 GB
- Last official rating
- 46 (Flat)
- Last run (GB & IRE)
- 1 Jul 2013, Wolverhampton (AW) (8/12)
- Last win (GB & IRE)
- Never won
Recent form
1074968
Form
Race record
| Date | Course | Pos | SP | Btn | Jockey | Trainer | Race | Class | Type | Dist | Going | Wgt | OR | Headgear | Winner / 2nd | Winner prize | Days | Future form |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Jul 13 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 8/12 | 22/1 | 6½ | Luke Morris | Ed Walker | Talk To Victor Handicap | Class 6 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 8-2 | 46 | t | Fossa (GB) | £1,941 | 11 | 0/10 |
| 20 Jun 13 | Lingfield (AW) | 6/12 | 16/1 | 7 | Luke Morris | Ed Walker | Vines BMW Handicap | Class 6 | Flat AW | 1m | Standard | 8-8 | 47 | t | Bertie Moon (GB) | £2,045 | 16 | 0/8 |
| 4 Jun 13 | Lingfield (AW) | 9/14 | 25/1 | 5¾ | Luke Morris | Ed Walker | William Pears Handicap | Class 6 | Flat AW | 7f | Standard | 9-1 | 49 | - | Black Truffle (FR) | £2,045 | 24 | 1/11 |
| 11 May 13 | Nottingham | 4/7 | 50/1 | 14¼ | Luke Morris | Ed Walker | Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat Turf | 6f | Good | 9-5 | - | - | Star Of Rohm (GB) | £3,235 | 19 | 1/6 |
| 22 Apr 13 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 7/8 | 33/1 | 10¼ | Tom McLaughlin | Ed Walker | 32Red.com Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 6f | Standard | 9-3 | - | - | Smokethatthunders (IRE) | £2,588 | 129 | 1/7 |
| 14 Dec 12 | Lingfield (AW) | 10/10 | 14/1 | 16 | Luke Morris | Ed Walker | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes | Class 5 | Flat AW | 7f | Standard | 9-3 | - | - | Absolutely Right (IRE) | £3,409 | - | 2/9 |
- 8/121 Jul 13 · Wolverhampton (AW)22/1
Talk To Victor Handicap
Class 66fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jul 13
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 8/12
- SP
- 22/1
- Btn
- 6½
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- Talk To Victor Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 8-2
- OR
- 46
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Fossa (GB)
- Winner prize
- £1,941
- Days
- 11
- Future form
- 0/10
- 6/1220 Jun 13 · Lingfield (AW)16/1
Vines BMW Handicap
Class 61mStandard
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jun 13
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 6/12
- SP
- 16/1
- Btn
- 7
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- Vines BMW Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 1m
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 8-8
- OR
- 47
- Headgear
- t
- Winner / 2nd
- Bertie Moon (GB)
- Winner prize
- £2,045
- Days
- 16
- Future form
- 0/8
- 9/144 Jun 13 · Lingfield (AW)25/1
William Pears Handicap
Class 67fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jun 13
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 9/14
- SP
- 25/1
- Btn
- 5¾
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- William Pears Handicap
- Class
- Class 6
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-1
- OR
- 49
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Black Truffle (FR)
- Winner prize
- £2,045
- Days
- 24
- Future form
- 1/11
Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes
Class 56fGood
All fields
- Date
- 11 May 13
- Course
- Nottingham
- Pos
- 4/7
- SP
- 50/1
- Btn
- 14¼
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat Turf
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Good
- Wgt
- 9-5
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Star Of Rohm (GB)
- Winner prize
- £3,235
- Days
- 19
- Future form
- 1/6
- 7/822 Apr 13 · Wolverhampton (AW)33/1
32Red.com Maiden Stakes
Class 56fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 22 Apr 13
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Pos
- 7/8
- SP
- 33/1
- Btn
- 10¼
- Jockey
- Tom McLaughlin
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- 32Red.com Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 6f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Smokethatthunders (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £2,588
- Days
- 129
- Future form
- 1/7
- 10/1014 Dec 12 · Lingfield (AW)14/1
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
Class 57fStandard
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 12
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Pos
- 10/10
- SP
- 14/1
- Btn
- 16
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
- Class
- Class 5
- Type
- Flat AW
- Dist
- 7f
- Going
- Standard
- Wgt
- 9-3
- OR
- -
- Headgear
- -
- Winner / 2nd
- Absolutely Right (IRE)
- Winner prize
- £3,409
- Days
- -
- Future form
- 2/9
Every British and Irish run since 1990, latest first. Btn is the overall distance beaten (lengths). Where the horse won, the runner-up and winning margin are shown.
Future form: next-time-out winners from this horse's races
| Date | Course | Race | This horse | Winner next time | Their pos | Won on | At | Race won |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 4 Jun 13 | Lingfield (AW) | William Pears Handicap | 9/14 | Winslow Arizona (IRE) | 5 | 25 Jun 13 | Newbury | Jung Pumpen & Pump Technology Handicap |
| 11 May 13 | Nottingham | Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes | 4/7 | Duke Cosimo (GB) | 2 | 21 May 13 | Pontefract | Pontefract's Got Talent - Friday Evening 7th June Maiden Stakes |
| 22 Apr 13 | Wolverhampton (AW) | 32Red.com Maiden Stakes | 7/8 | Abated (GB) | 4 | 22 Jun 13 | Lingfield | Cranbrook Maiden Stakes |
| 14 Dec 12 | Lingfield (AW) | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes | 10/10 | Emerging (GB) | 2 | 12 Jan 13 | Lingfield (AW) | Breathe Spa At Marriott Lingfield Median Auction Maiden Stakes |
| 14 Dec 12 | Lingfield (AW) | British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes | 10/10 | Testa Rossa (IRE) | 4 | 4 Jan 13 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Horse Racing Best Bets At bookmakers.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes |
- 9/144 Jun 13 · Lingfield (AW)
William Pears Handicap
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jun 13
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- William Pears Handicap
- This horse
- 9/14
- Winner next time
- Winslow Arizona (IRE)
- Their pos
- 5
- Won on
- 25 Jun 13
- At
- Newbury
- Race won
- Jung Pumpen & Pump Technology Handicap
- 4/711 May 13 · Nottingham
Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 11 May 13
- Course
- Nottingham
- Race
- Odds On Favourite DG Taxis 01159 500500 Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 4/7
- Winner next time
- Duke Cosimo (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 21 May 13
- Race won
- Pontefract's Got Talent - Friday Evening 7th June Maiden Stakes
- 7/822 Apr 13 · Wolverhampton (AW)
32Red.com Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 22 Apr 13
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race
- 32Red.com Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 7/8
- Winner next time
- Abated (GB)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 22 Jun 13
- Race won
- Cranbrook Maiden Stakes
- 10/1014 Dec 12 · Lingfield (AW)
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 12
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 10/10
- Winner next time
- Emerging (GB)
- Their pos
- 2
- Won on
- 12 Jan 13
- At
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race won
- Breathe Spa At Marriott Lingfield Median Auction Maiden Stakes
- 10/1014 Dec 12 · Lingfield (AW)
British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
All fields
- Date
- 14 Dec 12
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Race
- British Stallion Studs Supporting British Racing EBF Maiden Stakes
- This horse
- 10/10
- Winner next time
- Testa Rossa (IRE)
- Their pos
- 4
- Won on
- 4 Jan 13
- At
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Race won
- Horse Racing Best Bets At bookmakers.co.uk Median Auction Maiden Stakes
Other runners from this horse's races (latest 20 races with a next-time-out winner, up to 40 rows) that won on their next start in Britain or Ireland. FF on the race record = next-time-out winners / runners that have run again (this horse excluded).
Trainer changes
| Trainer | First run | Last run | First run for yard | OR first run | OR last run | Best OR | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ed Walker | 14 Dec 12 | 1 Jul 13 | 10/10 | 49 | 46 | 49 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 |
Ed Walker
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- First run
- 14 Dec 12
- Last run
- 1 Jul 13
- First run for yard
- 10/10
- OR first run
- 49
- OR last run
- 46
- Best OR
- 49
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Trained by one trainer throughout its British and Irish career.
Stats
Career summary by code (GB & IRE)
| Code | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) | Best OR | First run | Last run |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | 49 | 14 Dec 12 | 1 Jul 13 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
- Best OR
- 49
- First run
- 14 Dec 12
- Last run
- 1 Jul 13
Placed = 1st in 2-4 runners, 1st-2nd in 5-7, 1st-3rd in 8+.
By race type
| Race type | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat Turf | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| Flat AW | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Flat Turf
- Race type
- Flat Turf
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat AW
- Race type
- Flat AW
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By going
| Going | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Good | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| Standard | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Good
- Going
- Good
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Standard
- Going
- Standard
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By distance
| Distance | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 5f to 6f | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| 7f to 1m | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
5f to 6f
- Distance
- 5f to 6f
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
7f to 1m
- Distance
- 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Flat bands: 5f-6f, 7f-1m, 9f-11f, 12f-13f, 14f+. NH bands: 2m-2m1f, 2m2f-2m5f, 2m6f-3m1f, 3m2f+.
By course
| Course | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Lingfield (AW) | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Wolverhampton (AW) | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Nottingham | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 |
Lingfield (AW)
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Wolverhampton (AW)
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Nottingham
- Course
- Nottingham
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By class
| Class | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Class 5 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| Class 6 | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Class 5
- Class
- Class 5
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Class 6
- Class
- Class 6
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Pattern (Group/Grade/Listed) shown ahead of class. Irish races carry no class, so they are grouped as handicap or non-handicap.
By field size
| Runners | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 6 to 8 runners | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| 9 to 12 runners | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 13 to 16 runners | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
6 to 8 runners
- Runners
- 6 to 8 runners
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
9 to 12 runners
- Runners
- 9 to 12 runners
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
13 to 16 runners
- Runners
- 13 to 16 runners
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By month
| Month | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| April | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| May | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| June | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| July | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| December | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
April
- Month
- April
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
May
- Month
- May
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
June
- Month
- June
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
July
- Month
- July
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
December
- Month
- December
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By jockey
| Jockey | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Luke Morris | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| Tom McLaughlin | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Luke Morris
- Jockey
- Luke Morris
- Runs
- 5
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Tom McLaughlin
- Jockey
- Tom McLaughlin
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By trainer
| Trainer | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ed Walker | 6 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 |
Ed Walker
- Trainer
- Ed Walker
- Runs
- 6
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
By headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| t | 2 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
t
- Headgear
- t
- Runs
- 2
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear codes as declared: b blinkers, v visor, p cheekpieces, t tongue strap, h hood, e/s eyeshield.
By days since last run
| Days since last run | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Debut / no previous run | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 8 to 14 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| 15 to 30 days | 3 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 | ||
| 121 to 365 days | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 |
Debut / no previous run
- Days since last run
- Debut / no previous run
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
8 to 14 days
- Days since last run
- 8 to 14 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
15 to 30 days
- Days since last run
- 15 to 30 days
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
121 to 365 days
- Days since last run
- 121 to 365 days
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Counted from the previous run in Britain or Ireland; runs abroad are not seen.
By first-time headgear
| Headgear | Runs | Wins | 2nd | 3rd | Win % | Place % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| First time in any headgear | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| First time tongue strap | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| Headgear, all items worn before | 1 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £0 | €0 | ||
| No headgear | 4 | 0 | 0 | 0 | £241 | €0 |
First time in any headgear
- Headgear
- First time in any headgear
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
First time tongue strap
- Headgear
- First time tongue strap
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Headgear, all items worn before
- Headgear
- Headgear, all items worn before
- Runs
- 1
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £0
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
No headgear
- Headgear
- No headgear
- Runs
- 4
- Wins
- 0
- 2nd
- 0
- 3rd
- 0
- Win %
- Place %
- Prize GB (£)
- £241
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
A run can count in more than one "first time" row (e.g. first-time blinkers and first headgear of any kind). First time is judged against earlier British and Irish runs only.
Pedigree
Pedigree
Sire branchExceed And Excel (AUS)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
- Sire's damPatrona (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Sire's sire's sireNot traced
- Sire's sire's damNot traced
- Sire's dam's sireNot traced
- Sire's dam's damNot traced
Dam branchIvy League Star (IRE)
Parent · 1
Grandparents · 2
- Dam's sireSadler's Wells (USA)
- Dam's damIvy (USA)
Great-grandparents · 4
- Dam's sire's sireNot traced
- Dam's sire's damNot traced
- Dam's dam's sireNot traced
- Dam's dam's damNot traced
Ivy (USA)
Not traced
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Breeding card
HorseCarneades (IRE)
Sexgelding
Foaled2010
SireExceed And Excel (AUS)
DamIvy League Star (IRE)
DamsireSadler's Wells (USA)
Sire's sireDanehill (USA)
Sire's damPatrona (USA)
2nd damIvy (USA)
Dam's produce2 winners from 3 runners
Notable siblingHard Road (GB)
Female line
- Ivy League Star (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA) · 2 winners from 3 runners
- Ivy (USA) · 5 winners from 10 runners
Sire, dam and damsire
| Sire | Dam | Damsire | Sex | Sire's avg winning distance | Damsire's avg winning distance |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Exceed And Excel (AUS) | Ivy League Star (IRE) | Sadler's Wells (USA) | gelding | Flat 6.6f · NH 2m½f | Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f |
Exceed And Excel (AUS)
- Damsire
- Sadler's Wells (USA)
- Sex
- gelding
- Sire's avg winning distance
- Flat 6.6f · NH 2m½f
- Damsire's avg winning distance
- Flat 9.6f · NH 2m2½f
Progeny of Exceed And Excel (AUS) in this horse's best conditions
| Condition | Runs | Wins | Placed | Win % | Place % | This horse runs | This horse wins |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| All Flat runs | 14,830 | 1,767 | 4,581 | 6 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m | 5,251 | 615 | 1,596 | 3 | 0 | ||
| On AW going | 6,267 | 840 | 2,129 | 5 | 0 | ||
| At 7f to 1m on AW going | 2,366 | 305 | 780 | 3 | 0 |
All Flat runs
- Condition
- All Flat runs
- Runs
- 14,830
- Wins
- 1,767
- Placed
- 4,581
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 6
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m
- Runs
- 5,251
- Wins
- 615
- Placed
- 1,596
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
On AW going
- Condition
- On AW going
- Runs
- 6,267
- Wins
- 840
- Placed
- 2,129
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 5
- This horse wins
- 0
At 7f to 1m on AW going
- Condition
- At 7f to 1m on AW going
- Runs
- 2,366
- Wins
- 305
- Placed
- 780
- Win %
- Place %
- This horse runs
- 3
- This horse wins
- 0
Best distance band and going band are where this horse has most wins (then places, then runs) in its main code. Sire figures: all British and Irish runs by the sire's progeny since 1990.
Exceed And Excel (AUS) × Sadler's Wells mares (the cross)
| Code | Runners | Winners | Winners % | Black-type winners | Runs | Wins | 2nd/3rd | Win % | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 33 | 17 | 2 | 323 | 35 | 75 | £278,289 | €61,716 | ||
| National Hunt | 2 | 1 | 0 | 10 | 3 | 2 | £15,752 | €100 | ||
| All runs | 33 | 17 | 2 | 333 | 38 | 77 | £294,041 | €61,816 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Runners
- 33
- Winners
- 17
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 2
- Runs
- 323
- Wins
- 35
- 2nd/3rd
- 75
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £278,289
- Prize IRE (€)
- €61,716
National Hunt
- Code
- National Hunt
- Runners
- 2
- Winners
- 1
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 0
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 3
- 2nd/3rd
- 2
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,752
- Prize IRE (€)
- €100
All runs
- Code
- All runs
- Runners
- 33
- Winners
- 17
- Winners %
- Black-type winners
- 2
- Runs
- 333
- Wins
- 38
- 2nd/3rd
- 77
- Win %
- Prize GB (£)
- £294,041
- Prize IRE (€)
- €61,816
All British and Irish runners by this sire out of mares by this damsire, since 1990 (includes this horse). Black type = Group/Grade 1-3 or Listed winner.
Best of the cross
| Horse | Runs | Wins | Black-type wins | Best win | Prize GB (£) | Prize IRE (€) |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Infamous Angel (GB) | 11 | 2 | 1 | Group/Grade 2 | £69,658 | €0 |
| Solomon's Bay (IRE) | 10 | 3 | 1 | Listed | £45,777 | €0 |
| Imaginary World I (IRE) | 77 | 6 | 0 | - | £38,837 | €0 |
| Our Scholar (IRE) | 16 | 5 | 0 | - | £18,997 | €7,325 |
| Macaabra (IRE) | 7 | 3 | 0 | - | £8,605 | €0 |
| Madame Peltier (IRE) | 17 | 3 | 0 | - | £10,599 | €255 |
| Dozy (IRE) | 3 | 2 | 0 | - | £15,922 | €0 |
| Excel Again (GB) | 7 | 2 | 0 | - | £14,504 | €0 |
| Mina Vagante (GB) | 9 | 2 | 0 | - | £12,292 | €0 |
| Piranha (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 0 | - | £5,571 | €0 |
| Kassar (IRE) | 9 | 2 | 0 | - | £24,409 | €0 |
| Exearti (GB) | 7 | 1 | 0 | - | £3,447 | €0 |
Infamous Angel (GB)
- Horse
- Infamous Angel (GB)
- Runs
- 11
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Group/Grade 2
- Prize GB (£)
- £69,658
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Solomon's Bay (IRE)
- Horse
- Solomon's Bay (IRE)
- Runs
- 10
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 1
- Best win
- Listed
- Prize GB (£)
- £45,777
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Imaginary World I (IRE)
- Runs
- 77
- Wins
- 6
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £38,837
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Our Scholar (IRE)
- Horse
- Our Scholar (IRE)
- Runs
- 16
- Wins
- 5
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £18,997
- Prize IRE (€)
- €7,325
Macaabra (IRE)
- Horse
- Macaabra (IRE)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £8,605
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Madame Peltier (IRE)
- Horse
- Madame Peltier (IRE)
- Runs
- 17
- Wins
- 3
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £10,599
- Prize IRE (€)
- €255
Dozy (IRE)
- Horse
- Dozy (IRE)
- Runs
- 3
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £15,922
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Excel Again (GB)
- Horse
- Excel Again (GB)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £14,504
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Mina Vagante (GB)
- Horse
- Mina Vagante (GB)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £12,292
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Piranha (IRE)
- Horse
- Piranha (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £5,571
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Kassar (IRE)
- Horse
- Kassar (IRE)
- Runs
- 9
- Wins
- 2
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £24,409
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Exearti (GB)
- Horse
- Exearti (GB)
- Runs
- 7
- Wins
- 1
- Black-type wins
- 0
- Prize GB (£)
- £3,447
- Prize IRE (€)
- €0
Top 12 by best win level, then wins.
Ratings
Official ratings
| Code | Current OR | Highest OR | Lowest OR | Rated runs |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 46 | 49 | 46 | 3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 46
- Highest OR
- 49
- Lowest OR
- 46
- Rated runs
- 3
Current OR here is the mark carried on the latest run in each code; the page header uses a newer declared mark where one exists.
Official rating by run
| Date | Course | Code | OR | Change | Pos |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 1 Jul 13 | Wolverhampton (AW) | Flat | 46 | -1 | 8/12 |
| 20 Jun 13 | Lingfield (AW) | Flat | 47 | -2 | 6/12 |
| 4 Jun 13 | Lingfield (AW) | Flat | 49 | - | 9/14 |
- 8/121 Jul 13 · Wolverhampton (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 1 Jul 13
- Course
- Wolverhampton (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 46
- Change
- -1
- Pos
- 8/12
- 6/1220 Jun 13 · Lingfield (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 20 Jun 13
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 47
- Change
- -2
- Pos
- 6/12
- 9/144 Jun 13 · Lingfield (AW)
All fields
- Date
- 4 Jun 13
- Course
- Lingfield (AW)
- Code
- Flat
- OR
- 49
- Change
- -
- Pos
- 9/14
Current mark v winning marks
| Code | Current OR | OR last run | Change | Highest OR | v highest |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Flat | 46 | 46 | 0 | 49 | -3 |
Flat
- Code
- Flat
- Current OR
- 46
- OR last run
- 46
- Change
- 0
- Highest OR
- 49
- v highest
- -3
Differences are current OR minus the mark shown (positive = higher now). Current OR in the main code uses a newer declared or published mark where one exists.
Family
Dam summary
- G1 winners
- 0
- Produce
- 2 winners from 3 runners
Full siblings
No other foal by Exceed And Excel (AUS) out of Ivy League Star (IRE) has raced in Britain or Ireland.
Half siblings
By Cape Cross (IRE)
- Hard Road (GB)2W · 9R
By Iffraaj (GB)
- Beakers N Num Nums (IRE)1W · 10R
Female line
- 1Ivy League Star (IRE) · by Sadler's Wells (USA)
- 2Ivy (USA)
Notable relatives
First cousin
- DistinctionI (IRE)8W · 33R · 6 black-type
- Electrolyser (IRE)5W · 26R · 2 black-type
- Ivy Creek (USA)4W · 14R · 2 black-type
First cousin once removed
- Intense Romance (IRE)9W · 26R · 2 black-type
In brief
When was Carneades foaled?
Carneades (IRE) was foaled in 2010.
Who are the sire and dam of Carneades?
Carneades (IRE) is by Exceed And Excel (AUS) out of Ivy League Star (IRE), a daughter of Sadler's Wells (USA).
Who trained Carneades?
Carneades (IRE) was trained by Ed Walker and owned by Saeed Manana at the time of the last run in Britain or Ireland.
What is Carneades' race record?
In Britain and Ireland, Carneades (IRE) ran 6 times without winning.
What was Carneades' official rating?
Carneades (IRE) was last officially rated 46 on the Flat (career high 49).
Is Carneades still racing?
Carneades (IRE) last ran in Britain or Ireland on 1 July 2013 at Wolverhampton (AW) in the Talk To Victor Handicap, finishing 8th of 12, and has not run there since.
Is Carneades related to any top horses?
Carneades (IRE)'s black-type relatives in Britain and Ireland include DistinctionI (IRE) (first cousin, Group 2 winner), Electrolyser (IRE) (first cousin, Listed winner) and Ivy Creek (USA) (first cousin, Listed winner), from the Ivy (USA) family.
What is Carneades' record at Lingfield (AW)?
Carneades (IRE) ran most often at Lingfield (AW), with no wins from 3 runs there.
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